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notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...
 

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What don't you get about the fact that the GIANT ******* who called Rosen to come buy his cards could have said NO at any time.

sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...
 

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sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...

what i am saying is how is it ripping someone off if they agree to your offer! you are assuming the seller was an uneducated dolt... you dont think he saw value in selling those for that price?

so i guess what i am saying is... if i sell you a car at $5000 over retail book tough **** you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i sell you a house at 3x market value tough **** you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i make you a lowball offer on your cards and you take it tough **** you should have done your homework and negotiated better.
 

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chashawk said:
What don't you get about the fact that the GIANT ******* who called Rosen to come buy his cards could have said NO at any time.

sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...

Maybe you'll get ripped off by someone someday and we can all call you a ******* for letting it happen. Or do you know everything about everything and could never POSSIBLY be taken advantage of. You should seriously hang your head in shame for finding it perfectly acceptable to rip people off that come to you for your "expertise".
 

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notjomommasclint said:
sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...

what i am saying is how is it ripping someone off if they agree to your offer! you are assuming the seller was an uneducated dolt... you dont think he saw value in selling those for that price?

so i guess what i am saying is... if i sell you a car at $5000 over retail book tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i sell you a house at 3x market value tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i make you a lowball offer on your cards and you take it tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better.

I can't believe you find it acceptable to steal from people as long as it's under the guise of "a professional transaction". People call him because he advertises that he will pay cash, he then LIES to them about the value of their cards. These people don't know what the cards are worth, so he is in essence stealing from them. I don't know why you would stick up for that.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...

what i am saying is how is it ripping someone off if they agree to your offer! you are assuming the seller was an uneducated dolt... you dont think he saw value in selling those for that price?

so i guess what i am saying is... if i sell you a car at $5000 over retail book tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i sell you a house at 3x market value tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i make you a lowball offer on your cards and you take it tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better.

I can't believe you find it acceptable to steal from people as long as it's under the guise of "a professional transaction". People call him because he advertises that he will pay cash, he then LIES to them about the value of their cards. These people don't know what the cards are worth, so he is in essence stealing from them. I don't know why you would stick up for that.

to me this transaction is no different than the best offer sellers on ebay. they put up a card assuming that someone will buy it. the customer comes in and offers x% less than market value and the buyer accepts. 14.275 seconds later we see a steal thread with a link. i fail to see how that is different in any case. so next time i see a check out my steal in hand i want to see you in there bashing the buyer.
 

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Since when does he advertise a service where he will come and tell you what your cards are worth? He tells you what he is willing to pay you for them. Not once did this old idiot say "that's not enough" or "I think they are worth more" or "no deal, leave my house". He didn't make this guy sell him his cards. How can you be so god damned obtuse?

It's not as if this is a difficult concept to understand, but let me spell it out.

THE OLD MAN CHOSE TO SELL HIS COLLECTION FOR THE OFFERED PRICE. CARDS ARE ONLY WORTH WHAT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO PAY FOR THEM. HE WAS OFFERED "X" AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR HIS COLLECTION AND HE SAID YES!!!

::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm::



sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...

what i am saying is how is it ripping someone off if they agree to your offer! you are assuming the seller was an uneducated dolt... you dont think he saw value in selling those for that price?

so i guess what i am saying is... if i sell you a car at $5000 over retail book tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i sell you a house at 3x market value tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i make you a lowball offer on your cards and you take it tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better.

I can't believe you find it acceptable to steal from people as long as it's under the guise of "a professional transaction". People call him because he advertises that he will pay cash, he then LIES to them about the value of their cards. These people don't know what the cards are worth, so he is in essence stealing from them. I don't know why you would stick up for that.
 

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chashawk said:
Since when does he advertise a service where he will come and tell you what your cards are worth? He tells you what he is willing to pay you for them. Not once did this old idiot say "that's not enough" or "I think they are worth more" or "no deal, leave my house". He didn't make this guy sell him his cards. How can you be so god damned obtuse?

It's not as if this is a difficult concept to understand, but let me spell it out.

THE OLD MAN CHOSE TO SELL HIS COLLECTION FOR THE OFFERED PRICE. CARDS ARE ONLY WORTH WHAT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO PAY FOR THEM. HE WAS OFFERED "X" AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR HIS COLLECTION AND HE SAID YES!!!

::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm::



sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...

what i am saying is how is it ripping someone off if they agree to your offer! you are assuming the seller was an uneducated dolt... you dont think he saw value in selling those for that price?

so i guess what i am saying is... if i sell you a car at $5000 over retail book tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i sell you a house at 3x market value tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i make you a lowball offer on your cards and you take it tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better.

I can't believe you find it acceptable to steal from people as long as it's under the guise of "a professional transaction". People call him because he advertises that he will pay cash, he then LIES to them about the value of their cards. These people don't know what the cards are worth, so he is in essence stealing from them. I don't know why you would stick up for that.

sigh
 

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I only watched the video posted at the beginning of this thread.
I dont believe I ever heard the seller ask Mr Mint, "What are these worth?"
I believe that MM just stated what he was willing to pay for each set and to the best of my knowledge, the seller agreed with the price.
Mr Mint, being Right or Wrong, IMO did nothing Wrong here from a business stand point.
He made an offer the the seller accepted.
At any time, the seller could have said no and counteroffered prices or went through other avenues to sell the cards if he thought he was being lowballed by MM.
eBay was not the only other options, there are quite a few auction houses that would have taken those sets on consignment and would have netted the seller a hell of a lot more funds.
The seller IMO is at fault here.
Lets look at the lady that found that original baseball card a few months back.
She put it up on eBay, got a ton of will you pull the auction and sell offline. This raised a red flag to her. She did some research, got the card graded and sold it for a ton more.
Seller should have seen red flags here from MM and ended the discussions with him.
Flame away if you so choose, but I am just stating my opinion.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
chashawk said:
Since when does he advertise a service where he will come and tell you what your cards are worth? He tells you what he is willing to pay you for them. Not once did this old idiot say "that's not enough" or "I think they are worth more" or "no deal, leave my house". He didn't make this guy sell him his cards. How can you be so god damned obtuse?

It's not as if this is a difficult concept to understand, but let me spell it out.

THE OLD MAN CHOSE TO SELL HIS COLLECTION FOR THE OFFERED PRICE. CARDS ARE ONLY WORTH WHAT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO PAY FOR THEM. HE WAS OFFERED "X" AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR HIS COLLECTION AND HE SAID YES!!!

::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm::



sportscardtheory said:
notjomommasclint said:
sportscardtheory said:
[quote="notjomommasclint":3m5fe51z]a deal consists of 3 parts.
1. the offer
2. consideration
3. acceptance
at any point up til acceptance the gentleman could have said no.

all mr mint did was the same thing we see on this very board day in and day out. buy the lot for the big names only. we see steal threads non stop but no one rides the high horse in on any of those. we cannot assume the conditions of the cards nor can we assume that the gentleman didnt know what he had. we also cannot assume that the gentleman didnt do his diligence and shop those cards around. after all he knew the robinson was cut off and that the rose card was in good condition.

i personally dont think mr mint was a ****** bag nor that rough with the cards. he knew he was buying and what he was looking for got in moved the pages and got on to the next album. negotiations are won by the side with the leverage. this gentleman did not use his leverage. really, the only complaint anyone can or should make about this video is the person with the better negotiating skills won.

What don't you understand about the fact that Mr. Mint was called in as a professional? He was called by this man because he has a reputation for buying cards. So you are saying it's OKAY to use your business to go around ripping people off that are less knowledgeable than you? Ughhh...

what i am saying is how is it ripping someone off if they agree to your offer! you are assuming the seller was an uneducated dolt... you dont think he saw value in selling those for that price?

so i guess what i am saying is... if i sell you a car at $5000 over retail book tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i sell you a house at 3x market value tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better. if i make you a lowball offer on your cards and you take it tough shat you should have done your homework and negotiated better.

I can't believe you find it acceptable to steal from people as long as it's under the guise of "a professional transaction". People call him because he advertises that he will pay cash, he then LIES to them about the value of their cards. These people don't know what the cards are worth, so he is in essence stealing from them. I don't know why you would stick up for that.

sigh[/quote:3m5fe51z]

My thoughts exactly. Why don't you just go start a fight in a different thread if you're bored.
 

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chashawk said:
My thoughts exactly. Why don't you just go start a fight in a different thread if you're bored.

A FIGHT? Since when is stating my opinion fighting??? What is wrong with people today? Seriously, you need to chill the hell out.
 

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chashawk said:
My thoughts exactly. Why don't you just go start a fight in a different thread if you're bored.

A FIGHT? Since when is stating my opinion fighting??? What is wrong with people today? Seriously, you need to chill the hell out.


Man, the world misses Bill Hicks

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ThoseBackPages said:
sportscardtheory said:
chashawk said:
My thoughts exactly. Why don't you just go start a fight in a different thread if you're bored.

A FIGHT? Since when is stating my opinion fighting??? What is wrong with people today? Seriously, you need to chill the hell out.


Man, the world misses Bill Hicks

:(

I agree...
 

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My thoughts.

1- Knowledge is power
2- Rosen made an offer the gentelman accepted (refer to point 1)
3-Capitaliam at its finest.
4- The way Rosen handled the itmes was not right aside fromt hat he did nothing wrong.
5- Refer back to point 1.
 

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This **** made me want to cry. I understand he agreed or whatever, but its just too sad.

Hell probably roast in Dante's 8th circle.
 

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XdanX said:
My thoughts.

1- Knowledge is power
2- Rosen made an offer the gentelman accepted (refer to point 1)
3-Capitaliam at its finest.
4- The way Rosen handled the itmes was not right aside fromt hat he did nothing wrong.
5- Refer back to point 1.

Just because the strong prey on the weak and the informed prey on the uninformed, doesn't make it right. That's the point of this thread, it's exposing a slime-ball. You can dig what he does and respect it all you want, but there are two types of people in this world, leaches and hosts... and just because the dude is more informed than a lot of other people, doesn't make him any less of a leach on society.
 

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