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...Overall rank, taking everything into account:
Dylan Bundy
Gerrit Cole
Trevor Bauer
Danny Hultzen
Archie Bradley
Dylan Bundy
Gerrit Cole
Trevor Bauer
Danny Hultzen
Archie Bradley
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SydBarrett said:Dylan Bundy-Huge upside
Trevor Bauer-Potential CY, Potential Tommy John
Archie Bradley-Also has great stuff
Gerrit Cole-The most forgotten
Danny Hultzen-Pitching in Seattle (If I were to pick a Mariners pitcher I would pick Walker over Danny, I would put him after Bundy)
wolters03 said:SydBarrett said:Dylan Bundy-Huge upside
Trevor Bauer-Potential CY, Potential Tommy John
Archie Bradley-Also has great stuff
Gerrit Cole-The most forgotten
Danny Hultzen-Pitching in Seattle (If I were to pick a Mariners pitcher I would pick Walker over Danny, I would put him after Bundy)
How can you say potential tommy john? Have you actually ever paid attention to how he pitches? He is the furthest from it. His entire motion puts the least amount of strain on his arm, along with every offspead pitch having no torque on his elbow. He studies how everything works on a scientific standpoint. If anything he studies his craft more than anyone in the league probably causing him to be the least likely to have tommy john.
Zymco said:I love how hultzen is near or at the bottom of everyone's list so far. When he probably has the lowest floor and might be the safest bet of the group to be a solid big league pitcher. Also he should be the first to the big leagues. Bauer could beat him, but just kind of surprised to see hultzen so low. I really like him. I know some people discount Arizona fall league stats, but for him to come right out of college and dominat the fall league was impressive. Saw him pitch in person and was very impressed.
SydBarrett said:wolters03 said:SydBarrett said:Dylan Bundy-Huge upside
Trevor Bauer-Potential CY, Potential Tommy John
Archie Bradley-Also has great stuff
Gerrit Cole-The most forgotten
Danny Hultzen-Pitching in Seattle (If I were to pick a Mariners pitcher I would pick Walker over Danny, I would put him after Bundy)
How can you say potential tommy john? Have you actually ever paid attention to how he pitches? He is the furthest from it. His entire motion puts the least amount of strain on his arm, along with every offspead pitch having no torque on his elbow. He studies how everything works on a scientific standpoint. If anything he studies his craft more than anyone in the league probably causing him to be the least likely to have tommy john.
I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong, that's why I put him his number two. But given his age, how hard he throws and the motion, I really am skeptical as to how long he will be able to throw like that. I wish him all the best of the luck.
Wes said:SydBarrett said:wolters03 said:SydBarrett said:Dylan Bundy-Huge upside
Trevor Bauer-Potential CY, Potential Tommy John
Archie Bradley-Also has great stuff
Gerrit Cole-The most forgotten
Danny Hultzen-Pitching in Seattle (If I were to pick a Mariners pitcher I would pick Walker over Danny, I would put him after Bundy)
How can you say potential tommy john? Have you actually ever paid attention to how he pitches? He is the furthest from it. His entire motion puts the least amount of strain on his arm, along with every offspead pitch having no torque on his elbow. He studies how everything works on a scientific standpoint. If anything he studies his craft more than anyone in the league probably causing him to be the least likely to have tommy john.
I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong, that's why I put him his number two. But given his age, how hard he throws and the motion, I really am skeptical as to how long he will be able to throw like that. I wish him all the best of the luck.
Injury guessing based on velocity is irresponsible and cheap. Everybody's different.
It would be much harder on my arm to throw 87 than it would be for Bauer to throw 97, for example.
Zymco said:I love how hultzen is near or at the bottom of everyone's list so far. When he probably has the lowest floor and might be the safest bet of the group to be a solid big league pitcher. Also he should be the first to the big leagues. Bauer could beat him, but just kind of surprised to see hultzen so low. I really like him. I know some people discount Arizona fall league stats, but for him to come right out of college and dominat the fall league was impressive. Saw him pitch in person and was very impressed.
Zymco said:I love how hultzen is near or at the bottom of everyone's list so far. When he probably has the lowest floor and might be the safest bet of the group to be a solid big league pitcher. Also he should be the first to the big leagues. Bauer could beat him, but just kind of surprised to see hultzen so low. I really like him. I know some people discount Arizona fall league stats, but for him to come right out of college and dominat the fall league was impressive. Saw him pitch in person and was very impressed.
HPC said:Zymco said:I love how hultzen is near or at the bottom of everyone's list so far. When he probably has the lowest floor and might be the safest bet of the group to be a solid big league pitcher. Also he should be the first to the big leagues. Bauer could beat him, but just kind of surprised to see hultzen so low. I really like him. I know some people discount Arizona fall league stats, but for him to come right out of college and dominat the fall league was impressive. Saw him pitch in person and was very impressed.
I was thinking the same thing.
I compare Hultzen (at best) to Kershaw.
Then again, these are basically the top 5 prospect pitchers in MILB right now, so putting him even at #5 is still pretty damn good.
I happen to think he'll be the first to crack the majors too
chompsmcgee said:Dylan Bundy
Trevor Bauer
Gerrit Cole
Archie Bradley
Danny Hultzen
HPC said:Then again, these are basically the top 5 prospect pitchers in MILB right now, so putting him even at #5 is still pretty damn good.
Keyser Soze said:HPC said:Then again, these are basically the top 5 prospect pitchers in MILB right now, so putting him even at #5 is still pretty damn good.
Jameson Taillon, Shelby Miller, Taijuan Walker, Jacob Turner, and Tyler Skaggs all might have something to say about that!
ballerskrip said:Keyser Soze said:HPC said:Then again, these are basically the top 5 prospect pitchers in MILB right now, so putting him even at #5 is still pretty damn good.
Jameson Taillon, Shelby Miller, Taijuan Walker, Jacob Turner, and Tyler Skaggs all might have something to say about that!
Agreed 100%. I would take multiple guys on the 2nd list over the 1st one.
My order
Dylan Bundy
Tyler Skaggs
Jameson Taillon
Shelby Miller
Archie Bradley
Trevor Bauer
Gerrit Cole
Danny Hultzen
Taijuan Walker
Jacob Turner
Wes said:ballerskrip said:Keyser Soze said:HPC said:Then again, these are basically the top 5 prospect pitchers in MILB right now, so putting him even at #5 is still pretty damn good.
Jameson Taillon, Shelby Miller, Taijuan Walker, Jacob Turner, and Tyler Skaggs all might have something to say about that!
Agreed 100%. I would take multiple guys on the 2nd list over the 1st one.
My order
Dylan Bundy
Tyler Skaggs
Jameson Taillon
Shelby Miller
Archie Bradley
Trevor Bauer
Gerrit Cole
Danny Hultzen
Taijuan Walker
Jacob Turner
I'd bet you a lot of money that Skaggs doesn't have the second best career out of the pitchers on that list.