im not going to say the word but.......

[jeff550]

just have a dude ina booth that can watch the slow mo, make the call and it will only take about 1 minute

 

[andyduke86]

That was a terrible play by Miguel Cabrerra. They should at least go back and make that an error so it would be a no hitter.

but it wasnt an error.....it was an out, it wasnt a terrible play by cabrerra considering he got him out

Even if the runner WAS safe, it still wasn't an error. The ball was fielding cleanly, the ball was thrown cleanly. The ONLY thing that could be considered an "error" is if Jim Joyce honestly thought Galarraga bobbled the ball.

You guys are missing the point. Obviously it wasn't a technical error. Why not have the home scorer go back and make the change, since after all it was a terrible play by Cabrerra even though he should have been out. They are not going to change that call (I hope I'm wrong though) but they can change the error. So why not do that so it's at least a no-hitter and he has some official accomplishment as a result.

 

[Sly]

[quote="numba1yankeefan":23b8h11v][quote="boxbreaker44":23b8h11v]Some of you guys are going a bit overboard...chill....The human aspect to the game is what makes it great.

there is nothing good about what happened tonight

There will be when they institute instant replay cause of it.

They will not institute replay because of this. A personal milestone is not going to make MAJOR changes in baseball. The call did not affect the outcome of the game.

But it could have. Why wait till it happens. I dont see the problem with having a guy looking at a monitor with as headpiece on.

For every single close call on the game?? MLB wants to take DOWN the time of a game, not add to it.

How do you choose what to challenge? You never know what's going to affect the outcome of a game...so do you do replay on every single close play?? I mean, ONE of those calls MAY affect the outcome.[/quote:23b8h11v]

Theres been several options proposed, the most reasonable being:
"Any scoring play that changes the score or outcome of a game may be reviewed. Managers may also have the option to review 1 play per game at their own discretion. "[/quote:23b8h11v]

And what if Leyland had already used his "one per game" earlier in the game on a close call?

And what defines "changing the outcome"? A base hit like this sure doesn't affect the outcome at that point of the game.

 

[DetroitTigers]

Terrible call. What was Joyce thinking.

 

[TomMurry]

You guys are missing the point. Obviously it wasn't a technical error. Why not have the home scorer go back and make the change, since after all it was a terrible play by Cabrerra even though he should have been out. They are not going to change that call (I hope I'm wrong though) but they can change the error. So why not do that so it's at least a no-hitter and he has some official accomplishment as a result.

You keep saying it was a terrible play by Cabrera and you're STILL wrong.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

That was a terrible play by Miguel Cabrerra. They should at least go back and make that an error so it would be a no hitter.

but it wasnt an error.....it was an out, it wasnt a terrible play by cabrerra considering he got him out

Even if the runner WAS safe, it still wasn't an error. The ball was fielding cleanly, the ball was thrown cleanly. The ONLY thing that could be considered an "error" is if Jim Joyce honestly thought Galarraga bobbled the ball.

You guys are missing the point. Obviously it wasn't a technical error. Why not have the home scorer go back and make the change, since after all it was a terrible play by Cabrerra even though he should have been out. They are not going to change that call (I hope I'm wrong though) but they can change the error. So why not do that so it's at least a no-hitter and he has some official accomplishment as a result.

i dont understand though........IT WASNT AN ERROR...fielded cleanly...good throw...caught cleanly....where is the error

 

[17ROCKIES12]

This will be the most famous blown call ever. This would have been the 3rd in a ridiculously short amount of time.

 

[cowboysrule48]

This call was horrible in more ways than one.

It took away his perfect game, but it also may spark the discussion again for my widespread use of replay. I would absolutely hate to see replay expanded.

 

[FortyFour]

That was a terrible play by Miguel Cabrerra. They should at least go back and make that an error so it would be a no hitter.

but it wasnt an error.....it was an out, it wasnt a terrible play by cabrerra considering he got him out

Even if the runner WAS safe, it still wasn't an error. The ball was fielding cleanly, the ball was thrown cleanly. The ONLY thing that could be considered an "error" is if Jim Joyce honestly thought Galarraga bobbled the ball.

You guys are missing the point. Obviously it wasn't a technical error. Why not have the home scorer go back and make the change, since after all it was a terrible play by Cabrerra even though he should have been out. They are not going to change that call (I hope I'm wrong though) but they can change the error. So why not do that so it's at least a no-hitter and he has some official accomplishment as a result.

but it wasnt an error...You cant just change the rules of baseball because they feel bad for a guy.

 

[rymflaherty]

I highly doubt this will bring the type of instant replay it seems a lot of people here are asking for.
I could see them continue to gradually creep it in - maybe institute safe/out calls in the 9th inning. Not that innings 1-8 don't matter...but then they can say it won't effect the pace throughout the game and at least a game (or milestone) wouldn't be won/lost due to a mistake.

 

[lisu]

I still don't see the mysterious bobble. Jason Donald was out.

 

[TomMurry]

And what if Leyland had already used his "one per game" earlier in the game on a close call?

And what defines "changing the outcome"? A base hit like this sure doesn't affect the outcome at that point of the game.

If the review was used, then its used. Cant review the call at that point. Changing the outcome is anything that could change the winning team in the game. 2 run Walk off HR in a game the team was down by 1 for example.

 

[All The Hype]

That's awful. It's really too bad he gets robbed by an umpire. You would think that on a close play with two outs in the 9th like that, the guy would give him the benefit of the doubt anyway, but he was CLEARLY out on the play. That really sucks, I don't know if MLB can do anything to overturn the call or something (seems useless at this point anyway) but that really sucks.


The catch by Jackson was incredible.

 

[Sly]

I still don't see the mysterious bobble. Jason Donald was out.

Leyland said that Joyce's explanation to him was "he beat it out." I think the consideration of a "bobble" was just trying to justify the call...but Leyland saying that Joyce said it was a case of beating out the throw, then the thought of a bobble is moot.

 

[Hallsgator]

I still don't see the mysterious bobble. Jason Donald was out.

You should hear the Indians' fans on their post game show. About 5 callers keep saying he bobbled it. Sore losers.

 

[vwnut13]

[
And what if Leyland had already used his "one per game" earlier in the game on a close call?

And what defines "changing the outcome"? A base hit like this sure doesn't affect the outcome at that point of the game.

Have you ever seen the football replay rules? You get Two challenges per game. If you get them both correct, you get a third and so on.

Tough luck if you blow your chance on a call that was right and it biteds you in the butt.

 

[lisu]

I still don't see the mysterious bobble. Jason Donald was out.

Leyland said that Joyce's explanation to him was "he beat it out." I think the consideration of a "bobble" was just trying to justify the call...but Leyland saying that Joyce said it was a case of beating out the throw, then the thought of a bobble is moot.

OK - I was hoping that there was a bobble to explain it, but the ump needs his eyes checked. Galarraga clearly beat the runner to 1st.

 

[yanksfan4eva]

These 2 teams play again tomorrow.
Does anyone know if Joyce is behind the plate? Don't the umps normally rotate in a series?

 

[All The Hype]

Re: OMG OMG WTF was that call in Tigers game?

Even if the runner had been safe by the same margin, the umpire HAS to rule him out in that situation.

Should have been the 3rd Perfect game of the season, no doubt about it.

just . . . wow

My thoughts exactly. The call has to go to the pitcher in this situation even if it is a tie. I don't see how the umpire can ruin something like this for a guy with such a horrible call on the last out of the game. Just unbelievable and really disappointing since Galarraga actually did get 27 outs in a row and earn the perfect game.

 

[goblue6919]

Re: Gallaraga perfect through 8?

That was an ATROCIOUS call, and he should be suspended or even fired for it. You have to feel awful for Armando.

But everyone saying that you hope Jim Joyce gets shot or dies of aids are just ********. He is HUMAN. We all make mistakes. Maybe none as big as the one he just made but you don't think he feels like shat right now? Him and his family are going to receive death threats from this and he is going to have to publically apologize for the mistake he made. All baseball fans are pissed right now but some people need a friendly reminder that it's only a game.