Need to rant for a minute about a seller - no need to open

[Penno]

It wasn't handled in the best of ways, but the seller was worse. Technically with ebay, I guess you were right. I don't feel bad for the seller at all though.

 

[trademhigh]

I think what the buyer did was fine. I just think this is the most pointless thread ever because of the $$$ amount of the sale.

JG

 

[Philip J. Fry]

The seller definitely needs a lesson in anger management, and I don't mean the movie. At the same time, the creases were definitely visible but that's already been beaten to death.

 

[daveyou]

Sorry if any of you that said you were going block the op took offense to the loser comment but to say you are going to block him for giving his opinion on the transaction is ridiculous. I would have done the same damn thing. With that said block me also for having the same opinion.

i think im having a harder time with you backing him and now saying you'd do the same in which yes, ill def. add to my list

seriously, i dont care that the seller's a pyscho or whatnot. from what i've read, seller seemed to have gotten what he deserved but that's another point.

my point being, look at the scan of the card from the auction. now read the description of the condition of the card (fair to good). combine both. op got that exact card.

this is from psa

GOOD 2: Good.
A PSA Good 2 card's corners show accelerated rounding and surface wear is starting to become obvious. A good card may have scratching, scuffing, light staining, or chipping of enamel on obverse. There may be several creases. Original gloss may be completely absent. Card may show considerable discoloration. Centering must be 90/10 or better on the front and back.

FR 1.5: Fair.
A PSA Fair 1.5 card's corners will show extreme wear, possibly affecting framing of the picture. The surface of the card will show advanced stages of wear, including scuffing, scratching, pitting, chipping and staining. The picture will possibly be quite out-of-register and the borders may have become brown and dirty. The card may have one or more heavy creases. In order to achieve a Fair grade, a card must be fully intact. Even though the card may be heavily worn, it cannot achieve this grade if it is missing solid pieces of the card as a result of a major tear, etc. This would include damage such as the removal of the back layer of the card or an entire corner. The centering must be approximately 90/10 or better on the front and back.

there's a scan and a clear description on the auction and the seller pays for it because of this fool's reasoning? not to mention that it's 99 cents?

op, did you specifically not say it was somewhat of a steal on a rare boxing card that you won a few days ago? i tried looking but you deleted it.

so everything went your way it seems where pretty much anybody's would've been happy to have obtained a card for the price of 2 newspapers

now, considering that the seller knew you dicked his ratings. you said less than 5. you gave a 1, right? putting up 4, 3 doesn't make too much dent. you had to go there and put the 1 just to spite the guy probably.

dave

 

[Philip J. Fry]

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my point being, look at the scan of the card from the auction.

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[Y4NK335]

I agree with Dave and actually posted about the PSA grades (not to the same extent) in the previous thread. I think the buyer went a little overboard with the deal, but the sellers response was not too professional either.

 

[i43770]

Sorry if any of you that said you were going block the op took offense to the loser comment but to say you are going to block him for giving his opinion on the transaction is ridiculous. I would have done the same damn thing. With that said block me also for having the same opinion.

i think im having a harder time with you backing him and now saying you'd do the same in which yes, ill def. add to my list

seriously, i dont care that the seller's a pyscho or whatnot. from what i've read, seller seemed to have gotten what he deserved but that's another point.

my point being, look at the scan of the card from the auction. now read the description of the condition of the card (fair to good). combine both. op got that exact card.

this is from psa

GOOD 2: Good.
A PSA Good 2 card's corners show accelerated rounding and surface wear is starting to become obvious. A good card may have scratching, scuffing, light staining, or chipping of enamel on obverse. There may be several creases. Original gloss may be completely absent. Card may show considerable discoloration. Centering must be 90/10 or better on the front and back.

FR 1.5: Fair.
A PSA Fair 1.5 card's corners will show extreme wear, possibly affecting framing of the picture. The surface of the card will show advanced stages of wear, including scuffing, scratching, pitting, chipping and staining. The picture will possibly be quite out-of-register and the borders may have become brown and dirty. The card may have one or more heavy creases. In order to achieve a Fair grade, a card must be fully intact. Even though the card may be heavily worn, it cannot achieve this grade if it is missing solid pieces of the card as a result of a major tear, etc. This would include damage such as the removal of the back layer of the card or an entire corner. The centering must be approximately 90/10 or better on the front and back.

there's a scan and a clear description on the auction and the seller pays for it because of this fool's reasoning? not to mention that it's 99 cents?

op, did you specifically not say it was somewhat of a steal on a rare boxing card that you won a few days ago? i tried looking but you deleted it.

so everything went your way it seems where pretty much anybody's would've been happy to have obtained a card for the price of 2 newspapers

now, considering that the seller knew you dicked his ratings. you said less than 5. you gave a 1, right? putting up 4, 3 doesn't make too much dent. you had to go there and put the 1 just to spite the guy probably.

dave

He actually told me he goes off of Beckett's standards not PSA's.

Poor 1
Centering: 100/0 or offcut on front or back. Heavy diamond cutting is allowed.
Corners: Heavily rounded or heavily notched with noticeable layering.
Edges: Destructive chipping, notching or layering.
Surface: Severe print spots. Heavy creases. Severe color or focus imperfections. Heavy border discoloration. Severe stains. No original gloss. Heavy scuffing or a severe tear.

I'm not sure how rare it is, but it is a 1910 Mecca, where the guy had it labeled as a 1938 Goudey.

I actually gave him a 3 on his DSR.

 

[daveyou]

Sorry if any of you that said you were going block the op took offense to the loser comment but to say you are going to block him for giving his opinion on the transaction is ridiculous. I would have done the same damn thing. With that said block me also for having the same opinion.

i think im having a harder time with you backing him and now saying you'd do the same in which yes, ill def. add to my list

seriously, i dont care that the seller's a pyscho or whatnot. from what i've read, seller seemed to have gotten what he deserved but that's another point.

my point being, look at the scan of the card from the auction. now read the description of the condition of the card (fair to good). combine both. op got that exact card.

this is from psa

GOOD 2: Good.
A PSA Good 2 card's corners show accelerated rounding and surface wear is starting to become obvious. A good card may have scratching, scuffing, light staining, or chipping of enamel on obverse. There may be several creases. Original gloss may be completely absent. Card may show considerable discoloration. Centering must be 90/10 or better on the front and back.

FR 1.5: Fair.
A PSA Fair 1.5 card's corners will show extreme wear, possibly affecting framing of the picture. The surface of the card will show advanced stages of wear, including scuffing, scratching, pitting, chipping and staining. The picture will possibly be quite out-of-register and the borders may have become brown and dirty. The card may have one or more heavy creases. In order to achieve a Fair grade, a card must be fully intact. Even though the card may be heavily worn, it cannot achieve this grade if it is missing solid pieces of the card as a result of a major tear, etc. This would include damage such as the removal of the back layer of the card or an entire corner. The centering must be approximately 90/10 or better on the front and back.

there's a scan and a clear description on the auction and the seller pays for it because of this fool's reasoning? not to mention that it's 99 cents?

op, did you specifically not say it was somewhat of a steal on a rare boxing card that you won a few days ago? i tried looking but you deleted it.

so everything went your way it seems where pretty much anybody's would've been happy to have obtained a card for the price of 2 newspapers

now, considering that the seller knew you dicked his ratings. you said less than 5. you gave a 1, right? putting up 4, 3 doesn't make too much dent. you had to go there and put the 1 just to spite the guy probably.

dave

He actually told me he goes off of Beckett's standards not PSA's.

Poor 1
Centering: 100/0 or offcut on front or back. Heavy diamond cutting is allowed.
Corners: Heavily rounded or heavily notched with noticeable layering.
Edges: Destructive chipping, notching or layering.
Surface: Severe print spots. Heavy creases. Severe color or focus imperfections. Heavy border discoloration. Severe stains. No original gloss. Heavy scuffing or a severe tear.

I'm not sure how rare it is, but it is a 1910 Mecca, where the guy had it labeled as a 1938 Goudey.

I actually gave him a 3 on his DSR.

oh my God.... it's like talking to my dog and she's smarter....

im done.

dave

 

[Musial Collector]

Daveyou is going to block me I am sooooo sad. Like you would sell anything I would buy anyways. Seriously I love these threads where members show their true colors.

 

[sportscardtheory]

He actually told me he goes off of Beckett's standards not PSA's.

Poor 1
Centering: 100/0 or offcut on front or back. Heavy diamond cutting is allowed.
Corners: Heavily rounded or heavily notched with noticeable layering.
Edges: Destructive chipping, notching or layering.
Surface: Severe print spots. Heavy creases. Severe color or focus imperfections. Heavy border discoloration. Severe stains. No original gloss. Heavy scuffing or a severe tear.

I'm not sure how rare it is, but it is a 1910 Mecca, where the guy had it labeled as a 1938 Goudey.

I actually gave him a 3 on his DSR.

You should have given him a low DSR because he listed the card as a 1938 and it was a 1910. :lol:

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

Daveyou is going to block me I am sooooo sad. Like you would sell anything I would buy anyways. Seriously I love these threads where members show their true colors.

I just read this entire 5 pg thread & I have to say that the one who's shown thier "true color's" is you. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it you who started with the childish name calling (even though this thread has nothing to do with you)? :|

 

[gvsu96]

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... tForOthers


I love some of the feedback he leaves sellers.

 

[DRav87]

Watching this thread is hilarious! I love how people are getting angry, calling each other names, blocking each other on Ebay and trying to defend themselves all over a $4 card! :lol:

OP, I am not sure why you feel the need to keep bringing this up but I love watching it!

 

[i43770]

Watching this thread is hilarious! I love how people are getting angry, calling each other names, blocking each other on Ebay and trying to defend themselves all over a $4 card! :lol:

OP, I am not sure why you feel the need to keep bringing this up but I love watching it!

I'm actually kind of enjoying it now.

 

[bballcardkid]

You know what I do when I buy a card that has a flaw in it that I didn't notice when I purchased it, or forgot to read the entire description to find out about that detail? Suck it up and move on because I realize that it was my fault for not discovering the flaw in the first place. I do that on expensive cards, a cheapy I would probably just draw devil faces on and throw away.

 

[BunchOBull]

My only question is (if it has been asked, please ignore me)...what if the description said something like:

"Please examine the pictures to determine the item's condition and bid accordingly. If you have any specific questions about this item's condition, feel free to ask."

Would the seller be negligent? Would the seller deserve less than 5 stars?

 

[cgilmo]

ha!

this is my buddy cubnut

note the feedback he left me.

 

[cgilmo]

my latest email from cubnut after he saw my feedback reply


Never fails to amaze me the capacity for self-deception that southerners can engage in. Southern honor my ass.



You got the cards back. You saw the chips in the cases and yet you follow-up with the ******** inferring buyers remorse. Only southerners who justified slavery for hundreds of years and then followed it up with the brutal repression and racism you engaged in for another 100+ years can continue to lie and obfuscate the way you have so skillfully.



If that's honor, you can have it.


my reply

nice, way to put slavery all on me


Yep, 200 years of oppression all my fault.







No clue what planet this guy lives on.

 

[i43770]

My only question is (if it has been asked, please ignore me)...what if the description said something like:

"Please examine the pictures to determine the item's condition and bid accordingly. If you have any specific questions about this item's condition, feel free to ask."

Would the seller be negligent? Would the seller deserve less than 5 stars?

I would have probably gave him a 5, because if I didn't notice the creases at that point and/or didn't ask about something, it would have been my fault.

 

[muskiesfan]

I'm not going to say anyone is right or anyone is wrong. Had I purchased that same card, with that same description, and for that same price, I would have left positive feedback with 5 stars across the board. I read the description and look at the picture and make my decision on if I want the card or not. Then, as long as I get the card packaged well and receive it within 14 days, I'm happy. On a cheap card, I'm fine with a PWE as long as the seller uses cardboard or something to help protect the card. I'm a pretty easy buyer to please because the most important thing to me is getting a card I want.



Joe