One of those experiences that makes me question this Hobby

[ChasHawk]

Some of the more d-bag responses to a thread I've ever seen.

I'll say this one more time.

I buy singles myself and no longer bust wax, but...........

How the **** do all you ******** saying don't bust wax, it's a gamble, buy singles....think that you have access to those singles????

 

[Gonzaleznut]

[/quote]I don't bust wax either, but how the hell do you think you'd be able to collect....

Collecting Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez, Josh Hamilton, and Michael Young Autos

...without guys like Matt busting tons of cases of product over the years??[/quote]

By letting dealers bust the wax and buying the singles.

 

[cgilmo]

I don't bust wax either, but how the hell do you think you'd be able to collect....

Collecting Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez, Josh Hamilton, and Michael Young Autos

...without guys like Matt busting tons of cases of product over the years??[/quote]

By letting dealers bust the wax and buying the singles.[/quote]


dealers that bust wax aren't dealers for very long

 

[schmidtfan20]

I always thought of busting wax as to be a bit better than gambling. At the dog track or at the black jack table
you most likely are coming home broke if you bet everything, at least with cards you have something after the
rush of opening is gone. It seems to me like most people who bust multiple cases of this stuff are just looking
to flip right away. That isn't collecting, its gambling, at the end of the day you cash your chips in over on ebay.

What really bothers me is that topps knows very well that hundreds of cases are being opened by these non
collectors, who are just looking to flip. Why should topps care about collectability when the person buying their
wax isn't going to keep the card more than 1 day? Bent cards one day, sticker autos the next, even chrome isn't
safe.....but then again these cards aren't going to find themselves in any of our collections right?

 

[hofautos]

Some of the more d-bag responses to a thread I've ever seen.

I'll say this one more time.

I buy singles myself and no longer bust wax, but...........

How the frack do all you ******** saying don't bust wax, it's a gamble, buy singles....think that you have access to those singles????

Who are you calling an *******?
I think the message was, "Don't gamble unless you expect to lose", which is good advice...what would be your advice "*******" (your quote)?

But in answer to your question, people buy singles from people that CHOOSE to bust wax, whether they win or lose...what's your point?

 

[hofautos]

Some of the more d-bag responses to a thread I've ever seen.

I'll say this one more time.

I buy singles myself and no longer bust wax, but...........

How the frack do all you ******** saying don't bust wax, it's a gamble, buy singles....think that you have access to those singles????

Who are you calling an *******?
I think the message was, "Don't gamble unless you expect to lose", which is good advice...what would be your advice "*******" (your quote)?

But in answer to your question, people buy singles from people that CHOOSE to bust wax, whether they win or lose...what's your point?

I think it's good advice to anyone to buy singles if they are going to complain about losing 50% busting wax....good, solid, sound advice!!
PLAIN AND SIMPLE, YOU SHOULDN'T BUST WAX IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE LOSS....LEARN IT YOUNG!

SURE IT SUCKS, BUT IT"S PROBABLY BETTER WHILE IT'S ONLY $2800...maybe it will teach those before they spend their familie's food and clothing, out of addiction.
And, I am sure there are many out there that impoverish their family and own lifestyle with baseball cards...so I don't think I am exaggerating, especially over a course of 10+ years.

 

[AndruwHRJones]

It is not the hobby as a whole you should be questioning, it is what you are doing in the hobby that you should be questioning. There are plenty of ways to enjoy the hobby without losing the kind of money you may on this break. Sorry to hear about the break. Hopefully this will move you in another direction in the hobby and not completely out altogether. Good Luck!

 

[ThoseBackPages]

that sucks Brother.

maybe its time to give up on the kids and collect sure things?

 

[tramers]

i'm looking for Robbie Erlin - rangers

 

[hofautos]

i'm looking for Robbie Erlin - rangers

^^Cool for those that can afford to lose it -Good luck and find me some decent singles

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

Some of the more d-bag responses to a thread I've ever seen.

I'll say this one more time.

I buy singles myself and no longer bust wax, but...........

How the frack do all you ******** saying don't bust wax, it's a gamble, buy singles....think that you have access to those singles????

in matters to the skip, the dude shelled out 5k+

Yes, that can buy alot of "Those" singles.

You can build a INSANE auto/rc collection with 5k. To most people on here, spending it on prospect wax makes no sense to alot, and that is why all the dbag responses.

 

[WNP22]

Skrip: Sorry to hear about your cases. I'd say the vast, vast, vast majority of us here on the Boards know exactly how you feel. Whether it's $70 or $7000, the Buyer's Remorse after a bad wax break feels like a rock in your stomach.

We all know breaking wax is a fool's proposition. No matter how smart you are about it, you're almost certainly going to lose money. Playing craps is a better bet, odds wise.

And it is silly to expect sympathy when we all know better than to expect an 85% return on wax. Still, if you can't complain about it here amongst your fellow collectors, prospectors, and addicts, then where can you go? Here's wishing a Superfractor will be in your next case...

+1. Good post. To all of the guys making the negative, ******* posts: WTF?!? How can you be like that to someone that comes in here and complains about getting a swift kick in the sack like that. I mean if that happened to you, I'm sure you would be pissed too. I would have to believe that Skrip knew that a break like this was a possible outcome (I hope so), but that doesn't stop you from hoping to make a somewhat decent return. And when that decent return your hoping for doesn't happen, you're going to get a little upset. The man needed to vent. So stop being asses.

 

[hofautos]

Some of the more d-bag responses to a thread I've ever seen.

I'll say this one more time.

I buy singles myself and no longer bust wax, but...........

How the frack do all you ******** saying don't bust wax, it's a gamble, buy singles....think that you have access to those singles????

in matters to the skip, the dude shelled out 5k+

Yes, that can buy alot of "Those" singles.

You can build a INSANE auto/rc collection with 5k. To most people on here, spending it on prospect wax makes no sense to alot, and that is why all the dbag responses.

or That $2800 can buy a Pujols Chrome or a ruth cut...
It makes sense to those that can afford to lose it and enjoy doing it....it doesn't make sense if you do it and don't expect to lose.

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

WE ARE NOT saying Do Not buy wax at all, I think what most are trying to say is don't spend thousands (5k) on wax and then get bitter on the hobby when you pull junk.

i know your not looking for sympathy and you will not find it on FCB when you post saying you spent over 5k on wax, you pulled junk and now your pissed at the hobby.

For petes sakes man, buy a few boxes. But im sorry, spending 5k and looking to break even aint the smartest move. But im not an expert, i learned my lesson spending 150 on a wax box a few years ago.

 

[hofautos]

Skrip: Sorry to hear about your cases. I'd say the vast, vast, vast majority of us here on the Boards know exactly how you feel. Whether it's $70 or $7000, the Buyer's Remorse after a bad wax break feels like a rock in your stomach.

We all know breaking wax is a fool's proposition. No matter how smart you are about it, you're almost certainly going to lose money. Playing craps is a better bet, odds wise.

And it is silly to expect sympathy when we all know better than to expect an 85% return on wax. Still, if you can't complain about it here amongst your fellow collectors, prospectors, and addicts, then where can you go? Here's wishing a Superfractor will be in your next case...

+1. Good post. To all of the guys making the negative, ******* posts: WTF?!? How can you be like that to someone that comes in here and complains about getting a swift kick in the sack like that. I mean if that happened to you, I'm sure you would be pissed too. I would have to believe that Skrip knew that a break like this was a possible outcome (I hope so), but that doesn't stop you from hoping to make a somewhat decent return. And when that decent return your hoping for doesn't happen, you're going to get a little upset. The man needed to vent. So stop being asses.

I think it's one thing to say CRAP, I GOT A BAD BREAK...but it's another thing to say "I can't believe it, i lost 50%", and that he has to make payments on a credit card...
I have sympathy for the guy, but i think it's time for a wake-up call. I am glad it happened, because I do care. I think it was a lesson that he needed to learn.
Sure sympathize with him, but to call others ********, because they said that they believe he used bad judgement, is a bit much. It's sound advice....spend only what you can afford to lose...and if you got to put it on plastic, you can't afford it.

 

[hofautos]

WE ARE NOT saying Do Not buy wax at all, I think what most are trying to say is don't spend thousands (5k) on wax and then get bitter on the hobby when you pull junk.

i know your not looking for sympathy and you will not find it on FCB when you post saying you spent over 5k on wax, you pulled junk and now your pissed at the hobby.

For petes sakes man, buy a few boxes. But im sorry, spending 5k and looking to break even aint the smartest move. But im not an expert, i learned my lesson spending 150 on a wax box a few years ago.

+1

I bought wax twice...once a pack and once a case, both times I lost.
If I woud have won, i would probably still be busting.
Sometimes the best thing that happens to someone is to LOSE, and LOSE BIG, before it really makes a difference.

 

[Ian Stewart]

Honestly, you have nobody to blame but yourself. You put it all on a credit card, banking on making it all back by reselling after opening?

Sorry, but that has to be one of the stupider things I have ever heard of.

From the kid who had his parents handing out to build his collection. You're just sour because you can't live down one of the best threads in sports card forum history.

Matt, I have taken bigger beatings on wax over the years and wax will make you think about this hobby in a negative manner. The keep thing is li it your wax busting and split between singles and some wax. That 5800, could of scored ya two cases and a few supers of non huge guys in bcdp. Even if you didn't go after a super, you could of picked up a few of your guys cheap and in bulk. Think about it this way You have secret Santa stuff coming. Ripping into those mailers will change things also. It's a bummer and plenty of us know that feeling all to well, your packages will ease the burn of your recent luck. It's the holidays also and plenty of reasons to be happy about that also. Have a feeling before Christmas day, you will rip into a mailer and be very happy with what's in it.

Legit have zero idea of what you are talking about.

 

[WNP22]

Skrip: Sorry to hear about your cases. I'd say the vast, vast, vast majority of us here on the Boards know exactly how you feel. Whether it's $70 or $7000, the Buyer's Remorse after a bad wax break feels like a rock in your stomach.

We all know breaking wax is a fool's proposition. No matter how smart you are about it, you're almost certainly going to lose money. Playing craps is a better bet, odds wise.

And it is silly to expect sympathy when we all know better than to expect an 85% return on wax. Still, if you can't complain about it here amongst your fellow collectors, prospectors, and addicts, then where can you go? Here's wishing a Superfractor will be in your next case...

+1. Good post. To all of the guys making the negative, ******* posts: WTF?!? How can you be like that to someone that comes in here and complains about getting a swift kick in the sack like that. I mean if that happened to you, I'm sure you would be pissed too. I would have to believe that Skrip knew that a break like this was a possible outcome (I hope so), but that doesn't stop you from hoping to make a somewhat decent return. And when that decent return your hoping for doesn't happen, you're going to get a little upset. The man needed to vent. So stop being asses.

I think it's one thing to say CRAP, I GOT A BAD BREAK...but it's another thing to say "I can't believe it, i lost 50%", and that he has to make payments on a credit card...
I have sympathy for the guy, but i think it's time for a wake-up call. I am glad it happened, because I do care. I think it was a lesson that he needed to learn.
Sure sympathize with him, but to call others ********, because they said that they believe he used bad judgement, is a bit much. It's sound advice....spend only what you can afford to lose...and if you got to put it on plastic, you can't afford it.

I saw the original post after it had been edited, so I didn't see anything about the credit card. And I agree with you that you should only spend what you can afford to lose. I just thought some of the responses were rather harsh. Any of us in that situation would be upset, even if we had lower expectations. It's just basic human emotion. See what Skrip has to say tomorrow after the initial sting of the break has worn off.

 

[Weimer]

So I shouldn't max out my $8000 credit card limit on cases of BDP?

 

[ajbraves25]

Draft has always been a big risk, you catch of bad streak of colored refractors and hit the wrong players
then you are done. It really does appear that there are some bad cases out there, you could of hit a
run of that. The plus of picking up cases prior to release is that you get a good price, the negative is
you can't see where the good stuff is coming from...sometimes early cases are hot, sometimes later
on, sometimes retail. Remember the guy who opened 25 cases of Ginter and didn't get one Stras??

Its chrome, sit on it and maybe someone will get hot.

Good Luck
Kevin

someone ripped 25, let me get that right, 25 cases and didn't get one Stras??? That is nuts.

And I go to Target and get two blasters and hit a Strasburg Mini.... Go figure

~AJ