PLEA TO THE COMMISH THIS IS WRONG

[predatorkj]

[quote="predatorkj":16t5w0bu][quote="KOBEARODLT":16t5w0bu][quote="predatorkj":16t5w0bu][quote="KOBEARODLT":16t5w0bu][quote="predatorkj":16t5w0bu][quote="trevordchi":16t5w0bu][quote="tonyrios":16t5w0bu][quote="predatorkj":16t5w0bu][quote="tonyrios":16t5w0bu]And for the record, I went to over 5 Yankee games last year, each ticket LESS than 20$. It costs me more to get to the stadium and back than buying the ticket.
It'll be the same this year.

You sure about that?

Yes, I'm sure about that. You see, the thing is, I live in New York and you don't.

The thing is, we all have the internet and can easily find out that the only $20 tickets are in the OF in the Upper Deck.

Anything in the lower level is $100+ and closer to $200 in the infield.

Dangit Trev...I was waiting for him to be smart enough to figure that out!!! :lol:

well were ever the ticket is i would rather be far away watching the yanks instead of up close watching the astros...[/quote:16t5w0bu]


See...there is no call for that.I never even said I wouldn't like to go to a yankees game.Why are you trying to turn this into a debate about my team.Thats pretty trollish buddy.[/quote:16t5w0bu]

no not trollish, you are just stating your point on how you dont think its fair that the yankees are spending that kind of money and im just stating my point i would rather pay more to watch the yankees instead of the astros...[/quote:16t5w0bu]


Actually I don't think its smart.Not anything else.Just not smart.

As for the astros comment.You were being a smartass.Plain and simple.[/quote:16t5w0bu]

So you would complain about this spending spree if it was the astros getting all these free agents right....You would not go to the games just based on principle right.....NOOOO STOP WHINING[/quote:16t5w0bu]


Dude...I probably wouldn't be able to afford to go to the games.Can you understand that.I certainly wouldn't be for it if I knew I was going to pay more than I already do.Maybe you just like to argue and stir up a mess.[/quote:16t5w0bu]

so you wouldn't just buy seats that cost less...or are you to good for that?[/quote:16t5w0bu]


It would depend on what they went for.But for the most part...no.I wouldn't like to go to a game where I couldn't hardly see what the hell was going on.Its not very fun for me or my wife.I wouldn't call it being too good.Lets just say I like to actually be able to watch the game without feeling like I am a million miles away.[/quote:16t5w0bu]

most stadiums i have been at, every seat you can see good....but like i said you have probably always bought the MORE EXPENSIVE seats and never tried anything else..[/quote:16t5w0bu]


Well maybe you enjoy your seats and more power to you.I personally have sat at many different places in Minute maid park.And no...not all seats are good.Actually one time we sat all the way at the top (actually against the wall pretty much) and it was July and it was hot as hell up there and it was actually pretty hard to get to and from the seat if you needed to go to the bathroom or anything.I felt I should have paid just a little more money just so it was easier on us.And it was not very fun nor very comfortable to watch the game from there.

The difference between me and you is...I can afford to pay for a seat closer to the field than you can.I don't mean you can't afford it.But I can get off cheaper buying a seat there than you can at a yankees game.You most likely sit in the seats you do because thats what you feel comfortable spending.Nothing wrong with that.But I would hazard a guess you would love to get nicer seats for cheaper prices.Or are you going to call me a liar on that one too?

 

[predatorkj]

This is absolutely correct. the argument above assumes that the Yankees are truly competing in an open marketplace, independant of their competitors. But in reality, they are part of a closed system. They need to balance their desire to win (or even perhaps dominate) with the realization that they need their competitors to be strong and healthy or they themselves will die.

What good does spending all the money in the world do them if they drive their competition out of business? And that's where this unfettered ability to spend money is driving baseball. The NFL recognized this a long time ago. George Halas realized he needed the Green Bay Packers and other small market teams to be healthy in order for the Bears to survive. The Yankees and the rest of baseball better figure this out pretty quick or major league baseball as we know it will cease to exist.

Then show me where the Yankees have driven their competition out of business? If anything, through revenue sharing and luxury taxes the Yankees have made their competition stronger.

Uh...no they haven't.The fact that Sabbathia and Tex and A-rod and the likes have gone from smaller market teams where they were stars to the yankees just proves it.They kill their competition because their competition loses all their star players to the bigger market teams.

 

[predatorkj]

Gee, another thread about the big bad Yankees and the money they spend.

To place a cap and minimum that a team can spend with a $110 million difference doesn't solve anything. That's still a large gap.

Additionally, if your going to complain about the Yankees and the money they spend,please also include, the Cub, Angels, Mets and Red Sox. Yes, the Yanks spend the most, but lets not make this out to be ONLY their fault.

If I owned that team, I wouldn't do anything different. They have to maintain a capacity crowd at all times. These FA deals put asses in the seats, which in turn generates revenue.....you know, "Economics 101".

Yeah but then how do the other teams accomplish the same thing if all the stars leave?You figure it out.

 

[Sly]

This is absolutely correct. the argument above assumes that the Yankees are truly competing in an open marketplace, independant of their competitors. But in reality, they are part of a closed system. They need to balance their desire to win (or even perhaps dominate) with the realization that they need their competitors to be strong and healthy or they themselves will die.

What good does spending all the money in the world do them if they drive their competition out of business? And that's where this unfettered ability to spend money is driving baseball. The NFL recognized this a long time ago. George Halas realized he needed the Green Bay Packers and other small market teams to be healthy in order for the Bears to survive. The Yankees and the rest of baseball better figure this out pretty quick or major league baseball as we know it will cease to exist.

Then show me where the Yankees have driven their competition out of business? If anything, through revenue sharing and luxury taxes the Yankees have made their competition stronger.

Uh...no they haven't.The fact that Sabbathia and Tex and A-rod and the likes have gone from smaller market teams where they were stars to the yankees just proves it.They kill their competition because their competition loses all their star players to the bigger market teams.

ARod - I hardly consider Seattle and Texas "small-market" teams...especially considering Texas initially gave ARod his deal.

Tex - Angels and again Texas? Not small market.

Sabathia - Cleveland, not small market...hell, Milwaukee's payroll last year was higher than Cleveland's.

I hardly consider ANY of those teams as small market.

 

[predatorkj]

This is absolutely correct. the argument above assumes that the Yankees are truly competing in an open marketplace, independant of their competitors. But in reality, they are part of a closed system. They need to balance their desire to win (or even perhaps dominate) with the realization that they need their competitors to be strong and healthy or they themselves will die.

What good does spending all the money in the world do them if they drive their competition out of business? And that's where this unfettered ability to spend money is driving baseball. The NFL recognized this a long time ago. George Halas realized he needed the Green Bay Packers and other small market teams to be healthy in order for the Bears to survive. The Yankees and the rest of baseball better figure this out pretty quick or major league baseball as we know it will cease to exist.

Then show me where the Yankees have driven their competition out of business? If anything, through revenue sharing and luxury taxes the Yankees have made their competition stronger.

Uh...no they haven't.The fact that Sabbathia and Tex and A-rod and the likes have gone from smaller market teams where they were stars to the yankees just proves it.They kill their competition because their competition loses all their star players to the bigger market teams.

ARod - I hardly consider Seattle and Texas "small-market" teams...especially considering Texas initially gave ARod his deal.

Tex - Angels and again Texas? Not small market.

Sabathia - Cleveland, not small market...hell, Milwaukee's payroll last year was higher than Cleveland's.

I hardly consider ANY of those teams as small market.

The rangers are not a big market team.Nor was seattle when A-Rod played for them.I can agree with the Angels being bigger market but you can see what was going on.They jumped from one small stone to a bigger one every time and they always land on the biggest stones in the end.

 

[ru4scuba]

Uh...no they haven't.The fact that Sabbathia and Tex and A-rod and the likes have gone from smaller market teams where they were stars to the yankees just proves it.They kill their competition because their competition loses all their star players to the bigger market teams.

I fail to see where losing those players hurt those teams. The Mariners even went on to win more games after A-Rod left (for three years at least)!

 

[imac220]

Yet another thread whining about the Yankees money.....this is kind of like the Wossa threads....both have lots of money....one spends it on good players and the other spends it on supers......It's their money, they can do what they want with it!

You preach it brotha :lol: :lol:

 

[predatorkj]

Uh...no they haven't.The fact that Sabbathia and Tex and A-rod and the likes have gone from smaller market teams where they were stars to the yankees just proves it.They kill their competition because their competition loses all their star players to the bigger market teams.

I fail to see where losing those players hurt those teams. The Mariners even went on to win more games after A-Rod left (for three years at least)!

Because if a small market team loses it stars they tend to have a harder time selling tickets.I don't think anyone would argue that.A star is what keeps a lot of people coming back.I know when I go watch the astros I always like watching Roy Oswalt pitch and I love watching Berkman and Carlos Lee and even Miggy and Pence.Get rid of those players and for me...it makes it less appealing to watch.Yes I still love baseball and watching baseball but other than that...I want to have good players to watch.

 

[predatorkj]

Yet another thread whining about the Yankees money.....this is kind of like the Wossa threads....both have lots of money....one spends it on good players and the other spends it on supers......It's their money, they can do what they want with it!

You preach it brotha :lol: :lol:

The Wossa threads are a little different.If the only cards out there in existence were the ones he was paying all this money for then I am sure everybody would be up in arms about it because it would cut a good portion of collectors out of being able to collect.As of right now...he tends to focus on a small portion of the hobby that most people do not care to get in to.

 

[bballcardkid]

Yankees blow. They are like someone you know who is always trying to out do you at everything, only to epically fell.

 

[Warren of Oz]

[I fail to see where losing those players hurt those teams. The Mariners even went on to win more games after A-Rod left (for three years at least)!

They didn't just loose Arod. How about losing Tino? Randy Johnson? Ken Griffey? Surely Im forgetting one or two more. How many titles have they won?

How'd you like to have those 4 on the same team? You think seattle likes watching those guys walk away to "greener" pastures?

 

[imac220]

you remind me of glen davis a bit....CRY BABY!

[youtube]http://www. . /watch?v=-uSay2aWTc0[/youtube]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[nyc3]

These topics are starting to crack me up since he didn't go to "enter team here" who was going to pay him 180 million lets be mad at the Yankees for HIS choice of coming here and taking the same money he was offered in lets say Washington. Now if he would have signed with Washington would people be outraged and typing out these silly rants? Of course not.

The Yankees offered him his current value that other teams where offering probably a bit more, he made the choice to play for the most successful franchise in baseball history you really cant blame him, it would be like you work with computers and a new company offers you a job but then microsoft offers you the same money who are you going to choose? People are so blinded with hate like the Yankees told him he MUST play here. If anything I can understand being mad at him, or more so be mad at your team for being cheap and not offering him his current value. But why do that, that just makes sense.

As for a cap the read this and the figure out why your team isnt spending the checks the yankees and other teams basically write to them for having such a bloated payroll.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/art ... p&c_id=nyy

 

[nyc3]

Yankees blow. They are like someone you know who is always trying to out do you at everything, only to epically fell.

Epically fell? I believe its epically fail, as you just did.

 

[All The Hype]

 

[predatorkj]

These topics are starting to crack me up since he didn't go to "enter team here" who was going to pay him 180 million lets be mad at the Yankees for HIS choice of coming here and taking the same money he was offered in lets say Washington. Now if he would have signed with Washington would people be outraged and typing out these silly rants? Of course not.

The Yankees offered him his current value that other teams where offering probably a bit more, he made the choice to play for the most successful franchise in baseball history you really cant blame him, it would be like you work with computers and a new company offers you a job but then microsoft offers you the same money who are you going to choose? People are so blinded with hate like the Yankees told him he MUST play here. If anything I can understand being mad at him, or more so be mad at your team for being cheap and not offering him his current value. But why do that, that just makes sense.

As for a cap the read this and the figure out why your team isnt spending the checks the yankees and other teams basically write to them for having such a bloated payroll.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/art ... p&c_id=nyy

You fail to see the point of the thread.


Hey how about this.Your stupid owner of your favorite team just spent a lot of money putting together a team that probably won't win the world series yet again and its going to cost you an arm and a leg to watch it all unfold.Or fail as you wish.Enjoy it!

I think most of the yankees supporters problem is that anytime anyone says a damn thing they automatically go on the defensive.They automatically think that people are crying its unfair.All anyone has said is that the trend upward needs to stop.I think that is the real problem.There has to be a ceiling to this.If you cannot understand that or even understand what I am saying...you don't belong in this thread and should not debate it any further.At least not here.This thread had nothing to do with whining or crying or being mad at the yankees.Its all about thinking that the prices cannot keep going up.Its out of control.Only an idiot would say different.And only an idiot prefers to pay out the ass to see their team play baseball.I am not calling anyone an idiot.But what you do and the way you think will surely out you as one.You make the call!

 

[angelsrockies4ever]

And for the record, I went to over 5 Yankee games last year, each ticket LESS than 20$. It costs me more to get to the stadium and back than buying the ticket.
It'll be the same this year.

Where were you sitting?

 

[pujolsjunkie]

To those questioning the ticket issue, I went to multiple games for 10-15 bucks...they do specials during the week. It isn't crazy by any means to get deals on tickets. Will prices go up in the new park? Yes. I'm also guessing it will be a tad nicer with an extra amenity or two.

 

[JoshHamilton]

There's nothing wrong with the Yankees spending money

There is, however, something wrong with the Yankees whining like pathetic ******* about needing public financing to build their new stadium, then going out and signing players to $200 million plus contracts.

Bump. I'd like an explanation about this one

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

Yet another thread whining about the Yankees money.....this is kind of like the Wossa threads....both have lots of money....one spends it on good players and the other spends it on supers......It's their money, they can do what they want with it!

+1

Its their money, let them get all the hot headed players they want. They may have tons of overpaid players, but it means nothing if they can't work as a team.