So HOW LOW are the Five Star boxes going to fall?

[ballerskrip]

Back to the Question at hand, Marty had them for $399 at the sun times show today

 

[George_Calfas]

Back to the Question at hand, Marty had them for $399 at the sun times show today

Sounds about right, eBay has $440 w/ free shipping.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

lets be honest, in a year not many people will give a XXXX about this product

 

[ballerskrip]

Personally, I think the cards are beautiful. BUT, lets use the Miggy GU Auto /55 was for sale, and you had NO CLUE what product came out or the SRP, what would you pay for it? $25? $30? Yet it has been a $75-$85 card due to high end perception, kind of scary.

 

[cgilmo]

Patch cards and metal frames would stop most of the complaints imo

 

[Ty Hope]

I made a post a while back about "why do companies think thicker cards = high end?". Perfect example here. There is absolutely no reason for the chipping issues that 5 star has. If they know it can't be helped, you use a thinner card stock.

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

lets be honest, in a year not many people will give a XXXX about this product

I think you're being generous there. I'd give it no more than three months.

 

[Ty Hope]

Agree with TBP. Topps has failed to make their own "exquisite" which I would assume was their goal. Not many care about 5 star and until Topps pulls their heads out of their asses, no one will.

 

[csmtampa]

Agree with TBP. Topps has failed to make their own "exquisite" which I would assume was their goal. Not many care about 5 star and until Topps pulls their heads out of their asses, no one will.

I don't know man, there seems to be a lot of people still busting this product. Just tonight alone on Blogtv multiple cases have been busted. And that is the norm just about every night. As long as the top hits are still left in the product people will keep busting it hoping to pull them. I personally wouldn't spend over $300 a box on this stuff.

 

[Ty Hope]

Of course there are people still breaking it. What else is there out there high-end right now? At the shop I go to, one guy rips thousands of $ worth of stuff each time he comes just for the thrill. The name "5-star" doesn't hold nearly as much importance in the hobby as exquisite though. And I doubt it ever will. (I hate UD too, if that means anything)

 

[cgilmo]

Of course there are people still breaking it. What else is there out there high-end right now? At the shop I go to, one guy rips thousands of $ worth of stuff each time he comes just for the thrill. The name "5-star" doesn't hold nearly as much importance in the hobby as exquisite though. And I doubt it ever will. (I hate UD too, if that means anything)

Bolded is why I like it. This hobby needs one thing above anything else. Excitement.

This product brought that.

 

[Ty Hope]

Agree with that Chris. I will never buy any, but watching guys rip it at the shop is exciting. And painful...lol

 

[phillyfan0417]

I see you're trying a new angle but not presenting any evidence.

Evidence? Is that what you've posted?

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[sportscardtheory]

Done holding your breath yet? Anyone who reads this will think you're a small kid making things up.

You have no idea what my collection is like. But out of curiosity I just looked and about a third of my collection pre-2010 isn't Topps. Seems about right to me.

So you are a hypocrite then, obtaining cards other than Topps cards while bemoaning those other companies who's cards you own.

 

[cgilmo]

So you are a hypocrite then, obtaining cards other than Topps cards while bemoaning those other companies who's cards you own.

Bat XXXX crazy.

I think that a lot reading some of your posts.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Bat XXXX crazy.

I think that a lot reading some of your posts.

Thanks for that.

What he's doing is like being happy that Hostess went out of business because he likes another company's sugary treats better... while having a bunch of Twinkies at his residence that he is going to eat.

*insert picture of Willy Wonka here* Tell us again how you are happy that Hostess went out of business...with a mouth full of Twinkie...

 

[BBCgalaxee]

Look at all this anger, told you this product wasn't good for the hobby

 

[hive17]

You may want to look into the difference between CHOICE and QUALITY.

He may want to look at the reason that DLP and Upper Deck were taken out of the MLB arena. DLP simply had its license taken away by MLB, so his assertion that too many products isn't a fact, it's simply the opinion of him and MLB at the time. Then the same thing happened to Upper Deck, again, NOT because the market decided that there were too many products or that the quality was deminished, but because MLB decided there was. Then Upper Deck went through it's financial troubles NOT because of the actual product it was producing (2009 Ultimate was one of the BEST releases in the last 5 years), but because of their other business practices and piss-poor money/debt management (and then incurring debt after being sued by MLB for infringement after the license was stripped).

So basically, every assertion that uniquebaseballcards makes about the recent history of mlb-licensed cards, the market, and what happened, is wrong; he's just saying these things to further his point.

 

[aarne13]

As a team collector it just hasn't been that fun to collect over the last few years. I still hunt for older parallels from DLP, recollection\FF autos etc. All I've seen is the same 5 players (not counting prospects) over and over again. I for one would like to see more competition.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

He may want to look at the reason that DLP and Upper Deck were taken out of the MLB arena. DLP simply had its license taken away by MLB, so his assertion that too many products isn't a fact, it's simply the opinion of him and MLB at the time. Then the same thing happened to Upper Deck, again, NOT because the market decided that there were too many products or that the quality was deminished, but because MLB decided there was. Then Upper Deck went through it's financial troubles NOT because of the actual product it was producing (2009 Ultimate was one of the BEST releases in the last 5 years), but because of their other business practices and piss-poor money/debt management (and then incurring debt after being sued by MLB for infringement after the license was stripped).

So basically, every assertion that uniquebaseballcards makes about the recent history of mlb-licensed cards, the market, and what happened, is wrong; he's just saying these things to further his point.

Rather than continue to make stuff up, take the time to do some research and tell me which manufacturers didn't go bankrupt or weren't absorbed by another manufacturer because they were unable to compete.

Further don't include nonviable/mismanaged manufacturers such as UD because mismanagement is the same as not being able to compete; we've seen it leads to shady business practices everyone knows UD engaged in:

Donruss
DLP
Fleer
Leaf
Pacific
Pinnacle
Score
Skybox
O-Pee-Chee
Topps
Upper Deck

(big hint: Check HERE for help)

Also, when did the surviving manufacturer(s) begin operations?

While you may labor under the delusion that its easy for manufacturers to make money, its clearly not even in the best of times.