What is so special about Buster Posey?

[gldneagles311]

[quote="rebelsbaseball3":37y5llbx]ncaa ball is NOT mlb ball. metal and wood is like apples and oranges.

CONGRATS

whatever man.. i just dont see how 95% of the people on here spend ridiculous amounts of money on guys who have never used a wooden bat. So saying a guy was good in college ball doesnt make him an instant MLB star. thanks for being a ******.

+1 and thanked.

Think on the bright side.

At least Posey hasn't gotten a chance to have a great career then get permanently banned from the game for gambling after he retired and became a manager

At least he has some shot of getting elected to the Hall of Fame.

snap

Do you REALLY want to go there? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nice dig to try and get under my skin, but guess what youngster? Rose not being in the HOF doesn't bother me in the least. Nor does his gambling.

He's still the all time hits leader (and probably always will be) with 4,256. He's still the all time leader in AB's, the all time leader in games played, the all time leader in singles, the ONLY player in MLB history with 500 or more games at 5 different positions, a 17 time All-Star, 3 World Series rings, 2 Gold Gloves, 1973 NL MVP, 1975 WS MVP and 1963 ROY.

Should I continue? He holds many other records as well.


Oh wait, let me end by saying...


SNAP![/quote:37y5llbx]

i have to agree here. despite some bad choices, pete rose will always be one of the best ever to step foot on the baseball diamond. a guy that has never played a day in the majors should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as p. rose....

 

[Wes]

Cool name.

Not everyone loves the yankees Brother.

Montero's #s puts Posey's to shame...why is posey selling for 1.5x more? on average

Which stats put him to shame? The ones where Posey hit .463 with 26 home runs in 68 games? The ones where he was the golden spikes award winner? The ones where he hit .338 with 18 rbi in HWB with a wood bat? The ones where he hit .351 and helped two (or three?) MILB teams reach their respective championships? Montero is good, I have a decent stash of him, but Posey has nothing to be ashamed of.

ncaa ball is NOT mlb ball. metal and wood is like apples and oranges.

CONGRATS

whatever man.. i just dont see how 95% of the people on here spend ridiculous amounts of money on guys who have never used a wooden bat. So saying a guy was good in college ball doesnt make him an instant MLB star. thanks for being a ******.

It's been mentioned before, 99% of college players have used wooden bats in competitive summer leagues.

 

[darocker80]

Why don't you give posey a fricken chance to play a full season. He's had like 30 pro at bats

 

[FortyFour]

ncaa ball is NOT mlb ball. metal and wood is like apples and oranges.

CONGRATS

whatever man.. i just dont see how 95% of the people on here spend ridiculous amounts of money on guys who have never used a wooden bat. So saying a guy was good in college ball doesnt make him an instant MLB star. thanks for being a ******.

You collect Melky Cabrera. Please shut the hell up.

Posey went from hitting 3 homers to 26. That's somewhat of a red flag

And Montero went from 3 to 17 homers......



skrip

Well in his 3 hr season he only had 107 AB in his 17 Hr season he had 525 Ab.

 

[darocker80]

Why don't you give posey a fricken chance to play a full season. He's had like 30 pro at bats

And most were in playoff games too.

 

[cgilmo]

sigh

This thread is full of ****** baggery.

If it is a comparison of Posey vs Montero, the edge is with Posey at the moment because Posey has simply played more baseball and is much closer to the big leagues. Montero needs to work on his defensive game (btw, his skills behind the plate have improved drastically) and needs seasoning at higher levels. I don't think anyone would argue with me if I said Montero's ceiling is higher than Posey's. Montero has real 50 homer potential, Posey does not. Montero's bat will play whether its at first base or catcher.

 

[ballerskrip]

sigh

This thread is full of ****** baggery.

If it is a comparison of Posey vs Montero, the edge is with Posey at the moment because Posey has simply played more baseball and is much closer to the big leagues. Montero needs to work on his defensive game (btw, his skills behind the plate have improved drastically) and needs seasoning at higher levels. I don't think anyone would argue with me if I said Montero's ceiling is higher than Posey's. Montero has real 50 homer potential, Posey does not. Montero's bat will play whether its at first base or catcher.

Good points Gilmo, I agree with all of them.....

skrip

 

[tide12champrings]

Sandoval>Wieters

 

[cgilmo]

Sandoval>Wieters

hahahahah


love ya dewey, that running gag always makes me smile.

 

[FortyFour]

Sandoval>Wieters

Yep.

 

[ballerskrip]

Sandoval>Wieters

Yep.

ahahaah that is funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[cgilmo]

I prefer not to ignore Calis and Goldstien when they call Matt a super star. Professional opinions > our opinions.

 

[Mudcatsfan]

I've heard people say that Montero's value is tied into him staying a catcher, but i could make an argument that his card values will actually be HIGHER if he moves to 1b.

IF he doesn't have to deal with the physical toll that catching puts on a player, he'll have 10-12 more HR per season over his career, no doubt in my mind.

So if he's a Catcher hittin 25-35 hr a year or a 1b/DH hittin 40-50 HR a year, i'm thinking the second option, while not what a general manager would want, is what collectors would pay more money for.

PS, have i shown off this yet?

 

[Mudcatsfan]

Further, if Posey is a big success he's Russ Martin.

I love Russ Martin, but when's the last time you dropped $500 on him?

 

[cgilmo]

ask bigfan5

 

[Brett Keith]

I've heard people say that Montero's value is tied into him staying a catcher, but i could make an argument that his card values will actually be HIGHER if he moves to 1b.

IF he doesn't have to deal with the physical toll that catching puts on a player, he'll have 10-12 more HR per season over his career, no doubt in my mind.

So if he's a Catcher hittin 30-40 hr a year or a 1b/DH hittin 40-50 HR a year, i'm thinking the second option, while not what a general manager would want, is what collectors would pay more money for.

Bingo.

Think of what Piazza's numbers could have been had he been primarily a 1B.

 

[Wes]

Further, if Posey is a big success he's Russ Martin.

I love Russ Martin, but when's the last time you dropped $500 on him?

When was the last time he had an autographed 1st Bowman Chrome Card with parallels available?

I've heard people say that Montero's value is tied into him staying a catcher, but i could make an argument that his card values will actually be HIGHER if he moves to 1b.

IF he doesn't have to deal with the physical toll that catching puts on a player, he'll have 10-12 more HR per season over his career, no doubt in my mind.

So if he's a Catcher hittin 30-40 hr a year or a 1b/DH hittin 40-50 HR a year, i'm thinking the second option, while not what a general manager would want, is what collectors would pay more money for.

Bingo.

Think of what Piazza's numbers could have been had he been primarily a 1B.

I don't know that being one of 10 1B who hits 40-50 HR is better than being the one of maybe two or three catchers with that capability. Piazza will likely go down as the best hitting catcher of all time. As a first baseman he would still be a memorable player but would not be anywhere near the top of the list of all time first baseman.

 

[Lars]

Posey was probably one of the best [if not the best] position player in the 2008 draft and he has first-year autos out with parallels.

He is a guy who might be ready to play in the Major Leagues by the end of 2009, depending on how he progresses.

As good of a baseball player he maybe be - the future of catchers are iffy.

Posey maybe a righty Joe Mauer or he could be Michael Barrett or Jeff Mathis.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

I've heard people say that Montero's value is tied into him staying a catcher, but i could make an argument that his card values will actually be HIGHER if he moves to 1b.

IF he doesn't have to deal with the physical toll that catching puts on a player, he'll have 10-12 more HR per season over his career, no doubt in my mind.

So if he's a Catcher hittin 25-35 hr a year or a 1b/DH hittin 40-50 HR a year, i'm thinking the second option, while not what a general manager would want, is what collectors would pay more money for.

PS, have i shown off this yet?

+1 ...I would much rather see Montero end up at 1B (it would be the same thing if Wieters was moved to 1B, I believe he would have a higher ceiling as far as card value goes).

 

[Lars]

I think the prevailing thought is if you have a catcher hitting 25-35 home runs a year in his prime, then that is a 'one of a kind' talent. How many catchers do that on a regular basis?

There are more first baseman who have the ability to hit 25-35 home runs a year and there is no implied scarcity of guys who can regularly do that.

Montero would have to bust out and separate himself from the pack as a first baseman as opposed to becoming a unique 'creature' as a legitimate power hitting catcher.

I've heard people say that Montero's value is tied into him staying a catcher, but i could make an argument that his card values will actually be HIGHER if he moves to 1b.

IF he doesn't have to deal with the physical toll that catching puts on a player, he'll have 10-12 more HR per season over his career, no doubt in my mind.

So if he's a Catcher hittin 25-35 hr a year or a 1b/DH hittin 40-50 HR a year, i'm thinking the second option, while not what a general manager would want, is what collectors would pay more money for.

PS, have i shown off this yet?