Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

RustyGreerFan said:

More eye-popping Pinnacle:

$2.50 on COMC



$2 on COMC



My Topps MVPs

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i saw the Juan and passed. good buy! i have 20 of them.

BunchOBull said:

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:shock:

A Maddux sold recently for $108.

My first red label. I love this set!

Nice!
Wish I could find a Ripken Grand Finale.

just got this today! only took 13 years to find one! also got in a lot of 7 98 teks. i am now 2 away from finnishing
#60-67 #60-76

why would they put a card inside this who is going to destroy a serial numbered to 100 card?

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mansgame said:

Some great info and points about Burbank, thanks guys. I've made some purchases from them but mostly on their cards under $5. As most, I'm to the point in my player collection where most cards I need are tough to find and aren't cheap. I was shocked to notice Burbank had SO many that I'm in search of. I've emailed the guy over there and he is pretty good at communicated and it seems he can skim like 10% off any price if you ask, which is good to know.

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What's awesome to me is if they did indeed buy a lot of their stuff from a collection in Hawaii(rumored to be a collector who died), then man...can you imagine having a collection like that? Makes you wonder just what's out there that we don't know about. Somebody with a lot of money that has a taste not just for super high end but...everything.

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My understanding is that the super collector was 100% real. He was a multi-millionaire by the name of [strike:gez9gew5]Clarence T.C. Ching[/strike:gez9gew5] Lawrence S.L. Ching. His family is extraordinarily wealthy, having land as their means to fiscal prosperity. And having land in Hawaii basically makes you informal royalty in the islands. They were among the first of the Chinese immigrants who ended owning huge tracts of what would later become the City of Honolulu and beyond. They're still one of the wealthiest families in the entire state. Their holdings are vast and nearly unimaginable to the average citizen. Informal estimates I've heard on the grapevine put the entire family's holdings in the billions of dollars.

http://www.clarencetcchingfoundation.org/

And when the old guy bought cards, he did so not by doing cases of product - but *dozens and dozens* of cases of product at a time. Second hand, I've heard that the dealer who dealt with him would close down the shop - just so he and his staff could help him bust up the product and organize the hits over the course of an entire day.

Rumor is that when he passed, Upper Deck literally lost 10% of their company's value overnight...he was apparently their biggest customer.

His collection was valued, at the time of his death, a conservative book of between 3-5 million dollars. It was held in several large containers at a storage company he owned - one tiny part of many of the family's businesses.

A local-to-the-island, still active dealer helped negotiate on behalf of the family with Burbank. The selling price was $900K, literally one-fifth the value. And if you all remember, this all happened just as the 90's insert craze had begun. That meant the real dollar value was closer to double what the book was at the time.

Much of the funds generated went to the University Of Hawaii Manoa as part of an education grant.


edited 8/1/11 to correct name of Super Collector

BunchOBull said:

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I saw that with a BIN of $15. So that was you?

BunchOBull said:

predatorkj said:

mansgame said:

Some great info and points about Burbank, thanks guys. I've made some purchases from them but mostly on their cards under $5. As most, I'm to the point in my player collection where most cards I need are tough to find and aren't cheap. I was shocked to notice Burbank had SO many that I'm in search of. I've emailed the guy over there and he is pretty good at communicated and it seems he can skim like 10% off any price if you ask, which is good to know.

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What's awesome to me is if they did indeed buy a lot of their stuff from a collection in Hawaii(rumored to be a collector who died), then man...can you imagine having a collection like that? Makes you wonder just what's out there that we don't know about. Somebody with a lot of money that has a taste not just for super high end but...everything.

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My understanding is that the super collector was 100% real. He was a multi-millionaire by the name of Clarence T.C. Ching. His family is extraordinarily wealthy, having land as their means to fiscal prosperity. And having land in Hawaii basically makes you informal royalty in the islands. They were among the first of the Chinese immigrants who ended owning huge tracts of what would later become the City of Honolulu and beyond. They're still one of the wealthiest families in the entire state. Their holdings are vast and nearly unimaginable to the average citizen. Informal estimates I've heard on the grapevine put the entire family's holdings in the billions of dollars.

http://www.clarencetcchingfoundation.org/

And when the old guy bought cards, he did so not by doing cases of product - but *dozens and dozens* of cases of product at a time. Second hand, I've heard that the dealer who dealt with him would close down the shop - just so he and his staff could help him bust up the product and organize the hits over the course of an entire day.

Rumor is that when he passed, Upper Deck literally lost 10% of their company's value overnight...he was apparently their biggest customer.

His collection was valued, at the time of his death, a conservative book of between 3-5 million dollars. It was held in several large containers at a storage company he owned - one tiny part of many of the family's businesses.

A local-to-the-island, still active dealer helped negotiate on behalf of the family with Burbank. The selling price was $900K, literally one-fifth the value. And if you all remember, this all happened just as the 90's insert craze had begun. That meant the real dollar value was closer to double what the book was at the time.

Much of the funds generated went to the University Of Hawaii Manoa as part of an education grant.

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Wow! Extremely interesting. This is exactly what I would do if I was well off. I can't even imagine what he had, especially if he had been busting from the early 90's on. Hot damn! So yeah...basically Burbank really vultured it up eh? I suppose they gave the dealer and the family the line of "Well if you want to take the risk of a guy making monthly payments or you want to try to move it to someone else or in lots...go right on ahead and see where that gets you...". They are probably so well off that they figured they might as well take what they can get and just be done with it. Good god of mighty I wish I could have just looked througha few boxes. I can't even imagine...

nosterbor said:

just got this today! only took 13 years to find one! also got in a lot of 7 98 teks. i am now 2 away from finnishing
#60-67 #60-76

why would they put a card inside this

who is going to destroy a serial numbered to 100 card?

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wow nice.

Ross was kind enough to help me fill a few holes in the Maddux collection. Threw in some nice freebies as well!













Thanks again man!

gwynn5453l4u said:

BunchOBull said:

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I saw that with a BIN of $15. So that was you?

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14.99 to be exact. kudos to him. last one went for 150+

n1astrosfn said:

14.99 to be exact. kudos to him. last one went for 150+

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I actually saw the card in the scan with a Frank Thomas card I was looking at, searched the seller's listings and there it was. Should make decent trade bait one of these days, though I'm considering a run at the set.

BunchOBull said:

n1astrosfn said:

14.99 to be exact. kudos to him. last one went for 150+

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I actually saw the card in the scan with a Frank Thomas card I was looking at, searched the seller's listings and there it was. Should make decent trade bait one of these days, though I'm considering a run at the set.

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I know! There was a Gwynn card in the same scan I was looking at!! You are much quicker than I!!

BunchOBull said:

predatorkj said:

mansgame said:

Some great info and points about Burbank, thanks guys. I've made some purchases from them but mostly on their cards under $5. As most, I'm to the point in my player collection where most cards I need are tough to find and aren't cheap. I was shocked to notice Burbank had SO many that I'm in search of. I've emailed the guy over there and he is pretty good at communicated and it seems he can skim like 10% off any price if you ask, which is good to know.

Click to expand...

What's awesome to me is if they did indeed buy a lot of their stuff from a collection in Hawaii(rumored to be a collector who died), then man...can you imagine having a collection like that? Makes you wonder just what's out there that we don't know about. Somebody with a lot of money that has a taste not just for super high end but...everything.

Click to expand...

My understanding is that the super collector was 100% real. He was a multi-millionaire by the name of Clarence T.C. Ching. His family is extraordinarily wealthy, having land as their means to fiscal prosperity. And having land in Hawaii basically makes you informal royalty in the islands. They were among the first of the Chinese immigrants who ended owning huge tracts of what would later become the City of Honolulu and beyond. They're still one of the wealthiest families in the entire state. Their holdings are vast and nearly unimaginable to the average citizen. Informal estimates I've heard on the grapevine put the entire family's holdings in the billions of dollars.

http://www.clarencetcchingfoundation.org/

And when the old guy bought cards, he did so not by doing cases of product - but *dozens and dozens* of cases of product at a time. Second hand, I've heard that the dealer who dealt with him would close down the shop - just so he and his staff could help him bust up the product and organize the hits over the course of an entire day.

Rumor is that when he passed, Upper Deck literally lost 10% of their company's value overnight...he was apparently their biggest customer.

His collection was valued, at the time of his death, a conservative book of between 3-5 million dollars. It was held in several large containers at a storage company he owned - one tiny part of many of the family's businesses.

A local-to-the-island, still active dealer helped negotiate on behalf of the family with Burbank. The selling price was $900K, literally one-fifth the value. And if you all remember, this all happened just as the 90's insert craze had begun. That meant the real dollar value was closer to double what the book was at the time.

Much of the funds generated went to the University Of Hawaii Manoa as part of an education grant.

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Very cool! Thanks for sharing the story, it makes sense. Sure wish they weren't price sharks but they have the goods and are trying to maximize their return on their investment.

Rocketman12 said:

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Love the century legends!

I hit the jackpot tonight! A COMC seller with some great cheap 90's stuff is auto-accepting 50% offers, so all this stuff ended up costing me less than $25 in store credit:



Beltre is base, Biggio is Silver, Galarraga is Silver Refractor



Rolen and Erstad Best Cuts are Refractors, Erstad Finest is Silver



Grace is Embossed Silver



Thome is Silver Embossed, Schilling is Silver Refractor



I love the Lowell Gold PP!





Konerko is Refractor



Not a bad haul, if I do say so myself!

This seller just put up 237 1997 Platinum Medallions. These don't pop up very often, at least the Daulton doesn't.

http://shop.ebay.com/ronnyo/m.html?_nkw ... op=1&_sc=1

Good luck.

Greg Layton said:

This seller just put up 237 1997 Platinum Medallions. These don't pop up very often, at least the Daulton doesn't.

http://shop.ebay.com/ronnyo/m.html?_nkw ... op=1&_sc=1

Good luck.

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Oh man...stuff like that is why I secretly miss having ebay.