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Bryce Harper USA Superfractor Confirmed Sale @ $12,500

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Adamsince1981

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Honestly, admetstiger, you lost money the second you bought the card. On top of that, you will see 2-5 other Superfractors (all in the Nationals uni) before his "MLB RC Logo RC" appears.

MLB is close to ruining the RC, and the USA cards don't scare away the clouds...

You are either a huge Harper fan, a huge Washington fan, a huge baseball fan, or a huge Americana fan. Either way, at this point, you are at a loss.

Unless Harper is a white Griffey Jr. or a white Albert Pujols, you have lost and will never see the $12.5K again.

I'm not hating, but the negative posts come off ignorant and the positive posts seem to be kissings your ass. I feel I'm very close to absolute reality.

Bottom Line: if you are happy, that is all that matters.
 

011873

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Some of you guys are going way overboard here. SO WHAT if he spent 12,500 on THAT card....or any card?

Its not your money, its his. If he saved money his whole life, just sold his house, won the lotto or its his WEEKLY income, its his to do what he pleases.

Its like so many here take the price as a personal insult to them. "How dare he spend that much for a card, thats so dumb, hes only 17"

Perrsonally, I think spending $200,000 on a automobile that goes 250mph is dumb but I wouldnt piss on the proud owner as he's showing it to me. Common sense guys.

Heck, if I had crazy money, I sure would drop $12,500 on that card before I drop 200 grand on a car.
 

admetstiger

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I'm not looking to "maximize my ROI" or flip the card in a few years... I bought it bc I'm a collector and I wanted to own it. Period. None of us know what the future will bring. It might have been my only chance to get it and I go it. Well-wishers are cool, "realists" are good to hear from too, but the others....
 

Mr.Whipple

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admetstiger said:
Marro said:
admetstiger said:
Marro said:
sportscardfanatic said:
[quote="miguelcabrera":3e3b83ox]Just saw the buyers occupation. Investment banker. That explains it!!!

That's awesome. I need help with some investments!!!

You would take advice from someone who dropped 12K in a 17 year old unproven player? Best of luck.

Great thinking... Don't you think that there is a reason how I can drop $12K on a card? You're right... Maybe they should go to you...

Big risk was taken by you, I went to three oncologists and asked if they went to casinos and how often. I picked the Dr who didnt gamble as much, Considering it was my life in his hands. I dont have to hire an advisor though, I have an MBA from Wharton. Having the money to drop it on something doesnt mean its the right choice. But back to the big risk, If you took one on your dime. Would hate to see how you take it with others. Like others stated in this thread, Once his Nationals uniform one comes out yours takes a big hit value wise. Would of expected a lil more research instead of a puff piece by SI. So go ahead and school me a lil more.

Well, if I didn't buy it now and someone else did, then I might not ever see it again, as there is only one card and I wanted it for my PC. What you value the card at or what kind of career that you project Bryce to have are irrelevant to me.... The only card that would be more valuable would be a uni- auto, and from what I hear, it's almost a 50/50 split on which card (USA vs Auto the next year) would be more valuable... I would think that the uni-auto version would sell for more, but that doesn't mean that this card's price would be that far behind... But that doesn't make a difference, as I am planning to hold onto it. I'm sure if I told you about the other cards that I have invested in and what I paid then maybe you wouldn't have the same opinion of me, which seems to be negative for no apparent reason.[/quote:3e3b83ox]

If the buyer was other then someone doing the same as you, the Harper would pop up a few more times. Prospectors really dont have loyalty to any player, They only know the flip. If it would of popped up around the same time as the auto version, you would of paid half or less. Just because the current owner would of hoped that some people thought it was the current release. I am not being negative at all, I would of waited for a newer release before purchasing this card for a better deal. Plus dont post your other interests on here or cards you are after. Some members will bid it up so you pay more. They see what you dropped for this and will be peckers and do such. Someone posted a killer hof auto of a deceased player and I won it for about 200 under market. They were upset but learned a lesson.
 

admetstiger

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Marro said:
admetstiger said:
Marro said:
admetstiger said:
Marro said:
[quote="sportscardfanatic":5a63sfsk][quote="miguelcabrera":5a63sfsk]Just saw the buyers occupation. Investment banker. That explains it!!!

That's awesome. I need help with some investments!!!

You would take advice from someone who dropped 12K in a 17 year old unproven player? Best of luck.

Great thinking... Don't you think that there is a reason how I can drop $12K on a card? You're right... Maybe they should go to you...

Big risk was taken by you, I went to three oncologists and asked if they went to casinos and how often. I picked the Dr who didnt gamble as much, Considering it was my life in his hands. I dont have to hire an advisor though, I have an MBA from Wharton. Having the money to drop it on something doesnt mean its the right choice. But back to the big risk, If you took one on your dime. Would hate to see how you take it with others. Like others stated in this thread, Once his Nationals uniform one comes out yours takes a big hit value wise. Would of expected a lil more research instead of a puff piece by SI. So go ahead and school me a lil more.

Well, if I didn't buy it now and someone else did, then I might not ever see it again, as there is only one card and I wanted it for my PC. What you value the card at or what kind of career that you project Bryce to have are irrelevant to me.... The only card that would be more valuable would be a uni- auto, and from what I hear, it's almost a 50/50 split on which card (USA vs Auto the next year) would be more valuable... I would think that the uni-auto version would sell for more, but that doesn't mean that this card's price would be that far behind... But that doesn't make a difference, as I am planning to hold onto it. I'm sure if I told you about the other cards that I have invested in and what I paid then maybe you wouldn't have the same opinion of me, which seems to be negative for no apparent reason.[/quote:5a63sfsk]

If the buyer was other then someone doing the same as you, the Harper would pop up a few more times. Prospectors really dont have loyalty to any player, They only know the flip. If it would of popped up around the same time as the auto version, you would of paid half or less. Just because the current owner would of hoped that some people thought it was the current release. I am not being negative at all, I would of waited for a newer release before purchasing this card for a better deal. Plus dont post your other interests on here or cards you are after. Some members will bid it up so you pay more. They see what you dropped for this and will be peckers and do such. Someone posted a killer hof auto of a deceased player and I won it for about 200 under market. They were upset but learned a lesson.[/quote:5a63sfsk]

Thanks for the advice...
I might have paid less if the auto was available. This is true. But, I could have paid more under other circumstances too. I began collecting again in 2007. Remember what the prices were like then? Over the last year or so I've been able to buy cards at like 30% of their value compared to three years ago. Most of my "modern day" collection was put together under those circumstances, which would allow me a great profit if the hobby continues to grow as it is now and things improve from an economic perspective. Like I said, I bought the super for me; it was bought for pure enjoyment and not profitability... Would it have been better to pay $7K compared to $13K? Sure. Would a $7K offer have been enough for me to own the card? No.
 

Mr.Whipple

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admetstiger said:
Marro said:
admetstiger said:
Marro said:
admetstiger said:
[quote="Marro":dzzx56jk][quote="sportscardfanatic":dzzx56jk][quote="miguelcabrera":dzzx56jk]Just saw the buyers occupation. Investment banker. That explains it!!!

That's awesome. I need help with some investments!!!

You would take advice from someone who dropped 12K in a 17 year old unproven player? Best of luck.

Great thinking... Don't you think that there is a reason how I can drop $12K on a card? You're right... Maybe they should go to you...

Big risk was taken by you, I went to three oncologists and asked if they went to casinos and how often. I picked the Dr who didnt gamble as much, Considering it was my life in his hands. I dont have to hire an advisor though, I have an MBA from Wharton. Having the money to drop it on something doesnt mean its the right choice. But back to the big risk, If you took one on your dime. Would hate to see how you take it with others. Like others stated in this thread, Once his Nationals uniform one comes out yours takes a big hit value wise. Would of expected a lil more research instead of a puff piece by SI. So go ahead and school me a lil more.

Well, if I didn't buy it now and someone else did, then I might not ever see it again, as there is only one card and I wanted it for my PC. What you value the card at or what kind of career that you project Bryce to have are irrelevant to me.... The only card that would be more valuable would be a uni- auto, and from what I hear, it's almost a 50/50 split on which card (USA vs Auto the next year) would be more valuable... I would think that the uni-auto version would sell for more, but that doesn't mean that this card's price would be that far behind... But that doesn't make a difference, as I am planning to hold onto it. I'm sure if I told you about the other cards that I have invested in and what I paid then maybe you wouldn't have the same opinion of me, which seems to be negative for no apparent reason.[/quote:dzzx56jk]

If the buyer was other then someone doing the same as you, the Harper would pop up a few more times. Prospectors really dont have loyalty to any player, They only know the flip. If it would of popped up around the same time as the auto version, you would of paid half or less. Just because the current owner would of hoped that some people thought it was the current release. I am not being negative at all, I would of waited for a newer release before purchasing this card for a better deal. Plus dont post your other interests on here or cards you are after. Some members will bid it up so you pay more. They see what you dropped for this and will be peckers and do such. Someone posted a killer hof auto of a deceased player and I won it for about 200 under market. They were upset but learned a lesson.[/quote:dzzx56jk]

Thanks for the advice...
I might have paid less if the auto was available. This is true. But, I could have paid more under other circumstances too. I began collecting again in 2007. Remember what the prices were like then? Over the last year or so I've been able to buy cards at like 30% of their value compared to three years ago. Most of my "modern day" collection was put together under those circumstances, which would allow me a great profit if the hobby continues to grow as it is now and things improve from an economic perspective. Like I said, I bought the super for me; it was bought for pure enjoyment and not profitability... Would it have been better to pay $7K compared to $13K? Sure. Would a $7K offer have been enough for me to own the card? No.[/quote:dzzx56jk]

You're in a rare club of collectors now a days. I took a break in early 03 and returned in 05, Actually prospected from 01-05 myself and did well. I made very nice profits on players, But just went back to what I collected before hand. You will probably be the target of whoever pulls the auto version and other colors in the rainbow. Good to see a collector willing to drop a nice dime and keep the card, Its very sobering to people like me.
 

leatherman

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I don't understand what the big deal is...

The buyer has repeatedly said that he wants this card for his personal collection. The seller was turning down offers of up to $8000, had a price in mind that was significantly higher than the offers he was receiving, and was willing to wait until he received a lucrative offer.

Could the buyer have gotten it for less? Maybe. But in offering less, what if someone else came along who wanted it for THEIR personal collection, and the card disappeared forever because they offered more? Wouldn't you kick yourself when you knew you were willing to offer more?

Since the seller was rejecting $8000, let's say that $9000 was the minimum he would have taken. A $12500 offer is less than 40% over that price. I know plenty of player collectors that would pay 50% or more for an elusive card. I have seen $400 cards go for more than $600 in bidding wars, so what's the difference here? The difference is that the buyer has more scratch that most of us on the boards.

It sounds like most people opposed to the purchase are simply jealous, and are masking it with a thinly veiled attempt to explain why he overpaid for the card.
 

admetstiger

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leatherman said:
I don't understand what the big deal is...

The buyer has repeatedly said that he wants this card for his personal collection. The seller was turning down offers of up to $8000, had a price in mind that was significantly higher than the offers he was receiving, and was willing to wait until he received a lucrative offer.

Could the buyer have gotten it for less? Maybe. But in offering less, what if someone else came along who wanted it for THEIR personal collection, and the card disappeared forever because they offered more? Wouldn't you kick yourself when you knew you were willing to offer more?

Since the seller was rejecting $8000, let's say that $9000 was the minimum he would have taken. A $12500 offer is less than 40% over that price. I know plenty of player collectors that would pay 50% or more for an elusive card. I have seen $400 cards go for more than $600 in bidding wars, so what's the difference here? The difference is that the buyer has more scratch that most of us on the boards.

It sounds like most people opposed to the purchase are simply jealous, and are masking it with a thinly veiled attempt to explain why he overpaid for the card.

;) Shouldn't I be commended for being a real collector and not condemned for how much I spent???
 

Brewer Andy

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admetstiger said:
leatherman said:
I don't understand what the big deal is...

The buyer has repeatedly said that he wants this card for his personal collection. The seller was turning down offers of up to $8000, had a price in mind that was significantly higher than the offers he was receiving, and was willing to wait until he received a lucrative offer.

Could the buyer have gotten it for less? Maybe. But in offering less, what if someone else came along who wanted it for THEIR personal collection, and the card disappeared forever because they offered more? Wouldn't you kick yourself when you knew you were willing to offer more?

Since the seller was rejecting $8000, let's say that $9000 was the minimum he would have taken. A $12500 offer is less than 40% over that price. I know plenty of player collectors that would pay 50% or more for an elusive card. I have seen $400 cards go for more than $600 in bidding wars, so what's the difference here? The difference is that the buyer has more scratch that most of us on the boards.

It sounds like most people opposed to the purchase are simply jealous, and are masking it with a thinly veiled attempt to explain why he overpaid for the card.

;) Shouldn't I be commended for being a real collector and not condemned for how much I spent???


Truth. On items such as this, the buyer deserves just as much of a congrats as the seller does, if some can at least "think" like a collector for a brief moment. Congrats on the landing!
 

leatherman

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admetstiger said:
Shouldn't I be commended for being a real collector and not condemned for how much I spent???

If you had been able to acquire the card without the selling price becoming public domain, I think that could have happened. However, you bought the card and the circus that came along with it. With that seller, there wasn't a chance in hell that the price was going to be kept a secret. Fortunately, the cards in my PC tend to cost me under $10 each, and I probably enjoy mine as much as anyone. I did put in a best offer of $35 today on a 1984 Fleer Dwight Gooden PSA 9, but it was auto-declined. I'm not willing to go any higher than that. :(

I think it's a great card. Hopefully, you can acquire the super 1/1 auto when it is released, and it can sit next to its fraternal twin.
 
admetstiger said:
leatherman said:
I don't understand what the big deal is...

The buyer has repeatedly said that he wants this card for his personal collection. The seller was turning down offers of up to $8000, had a price in mind that was significantly higher than the offers he was receiving, and was willing to wait until he received a lucrative offer.

Could the buyer have gotten it for less? Maybe. But in offering less, what if someone else came along who wanted it for THEIR personal collection, and the card disappeared forever because they offered more? Wouldn't you kick yourself when you knew you were willing to offer more?

Since the seller was rejecting $8000, let's say that $9000 was the minimum he would have taken. A $12500 offer is less than 40% over that price. I know plenty of player collectors that would pay 50% or more for an elusive card. I have seen $400 cards go for more than $600 in bidding wars, so what's the difference here? The difference is that the buyer has more scratch that most of us on the boards.

It sounds like most people opposed to the purchase are simply jealous, and are masking it with a thinly veiled attempt to explain why he overpaid for the card.

;) Shouldn't I be commended for being a real collector and not condemned for how much I spent???


don't listen to these people that care about the amount of YOUR money you spent. You have the money to spend. You only live once. Enjoy Life. If you want the card, get it. Congrats on a cool card.

It's only money folks. It comes and it goes. If you have it to spend in ways others would not, more power to ya. You do not ever have to justify how you spend your money. It's YOUR money. Justifying to my friends on why i drop my coin on lumber mcgwire used etc is a waste of time so i dont bother. The guy wanted the card, so he bought. Congrats to him regardless of the price. Enjoy the card man!
 

Leaf

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admetstiger said:
leatherman said:
I don't understand what the big deal is...

The buyer has repeatedly said that he wants this card for his personal collection. The seller was turning down offers of up to $8000, had a price in mind that was significantly higher than the offers he was receiving, and was willing to wait until he received a lucrative offer.

Could the buyer have gotten it for less? Maybe. But in offering less, what if someone else came along who wanted it for THEIR personal collection, and the card disappeared forever because they offered more? Wouldn't you kick yourself when you knew you were willing to offer more?

Since the seller was rejecting $8000, let's say that $9000 was the minimum he would have taken. A $12500 offer is less than 40% over that price. I know plenty of player collectors that would pay 50% or more for an elusive card. I have seen $400 cards go for more than $600 in bidding wars, so what's the difference here? The difference is that the buyer has more scratch that most of us on the boards.

It sounds like most people opposed to the purchase are simply jealous, and are masking it with a thinly veiled attempt to explain why he overpaid for the card.

;) Shouldn't I be commended for being a real collector and not condemned for how much I spent???

+1.... I agree with you. Buy what you like. Pay what you like.
Never look back. BG
 

admetstiger

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Leaf said:
admetstiger said:
leatherman said:
I don't understand what the big deal is...

The buyer has repeatedly said that he wants this card for his personal collection. The seller was turning down offers of up to $8000, had a price in mind that was significantly higher than the offers he was receiving, and was willing to wait until he received a lucrative offer.

Could the buyer have gotten it for less? Maybe. But in offering less, what if someone else came along who wanted it for THEIR personal collection, and the card disappeared forever because they offered more? Wouldn't you kick yourself when you knew you were willing to offer more?

Since the seller was rejecting $8000, let's say that $9000 was the minimum he would have taken. A $12500 offer is less than 40% over that price. I know plenty of player collectors that would pay 50% or more for an elusive card. I have seen $400 cards go for more than $600 in bidding wars, so what's the difference here? The difference is that the buyer has more scratch that most of us on the boards.

It sounds like most people opposed to the purchase are simply jealous, and are masking it with a thinly veiled attempt to explain why he overpaid for the card.
Thanks BG ;)

;) Shouldn't I be commended for being a real collector and not condemned for how much I spent???

+1.... I agree with you. Buy what you like. Pay what you like.
Never look back. BG
 

admetstiger

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admetstiger said:
Leaf said:
admetstiger said:
leatherman said:
I don't understand what the big deal is...

The buyer has repeatedly said that he wants this card for his personal collection. The seller was turning down offers of up to $8000, had a price in mind that was significantly higher than the offers he was receiving, and was willing to wait until he received a lucrative offer.

Could the buyer have gotten it for less? Maybe. But in offering less, what if someone else came along who wanted it for THEIR personal collection, and the card disappeared forever because they offered more? Wouldn't you kick yourself when you knew you were willing to offer more?

Since the seller was rejecting $8000, let's say that $9000 was the minimum he would have taken. A $12500 offer is less than 40% over that price. I know plenty of player collectors that would pay 50% or more for an elusive card. I have seen $400 cards go for more than $600 in bidding wars, so what's the difference here? The difference is that the buyer has more scratch that most of us on the boards.

It sounds like most people opposed to the purchase are simply jealous, and are masking it with a thinly veiled attempt to explain why he overpaid for the card.
Thanks BG ;)

;) Shouldn't I be commended for being a real collector and not condemned for how much I spent???

+1.... I agree with you. Buy what you like. Pay what you like.
Never look back. BG

Thanks BG ;)
 

Mr.Whipple

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I am not jealous of the buyer at all. Just curious how many prospectors can't grasp why he is gonna keep it and not flip it. Talk about a confusing concept for them on a prospect card......."He bought a Harper super and won't flip it at his call up, Is that allowed, Can we have him banned from ebay and fcb for this infraction?". Some of them probably lost sleep over them reading it.
 

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