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Do you only have one red ink? I thought you had a couple before i sold you mine. Damn shame, like Aroid, Bonds and Clemens - SO much talent only to throw it all away for greed.

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Just watched his full interview from last february. It's one thing to cheat, but to spew this nonsense...

"I promise you on anything that's ever meant anything to me in my life, the morals, the virtues, the values by which I've lived in my 28 years on this planet, I did not do this."


 

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Just watched his full interview from last february. It's one thing to cheat, but to spew this nonsense...

"I promise you on anything that's ever meant anything to me in my life, the morals, the virtues, the values by which I've lived in my 28 years on this planet,I did not do this."

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'THIS' is..."
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MLB should hire a private physician, nutritionist, chef and personal trainer to every player. They are all fed, supplied with and go through the same weight training. Everyone can be exactly the same.
 

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I don't see why they can't just test everyone all at once.
Get the government involved again if you have to.
SURPRISE the teams one day, saying all games are cancelled for three days. And every single MLB player, active and on the DL, have to be in a certain city at a certain time to be tested. And if you miss, you're GONE from the game forever, contracts cancelled.
That'd clean the game up for sure.
If only it were that easy.
Unfortunately, the players' union has a say in any new rule involving players. The commissioner can't just make a rule.
Everything has to be negotiated with the players' union. That's why the rules aren't as strict as they should be.
 

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The Brewers should offer Free Braun Replacement jerseys like the Pats did with Hernandez.

Did you really just compare a guy being charged with murder to a guy who took steroids?

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Don't think it's fair to compare murder with PED's. I don't think there is any way to deny the fact that baseball has become the whipping boy for PED's even though it is an issue (likely a bigger issue) in other sports. When articles came out the week before the Super Bowl about Ray Lewis taking something, people gave it no attention. When it is a baseball player it is huge news. And Von Miller is one of the best defensive players in the game, it's not like he's the Melky Cabrera of the NFL. (Oh wait, even Melky Cabrera was big news...)

The Lewis comment is not true. It was all over sportscenter and yahoo news not to mention other outlets...
 

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I think people do view the PED problem in baseball as a bigger issue in baseball than football. I think a lot of people see baseball as Americas past time and want it to be played at its purest form. Not everyone has played football but I think almost everyone has picked up a ball & glove & threw the ball around, and people seem to want to protect the game. I think fans also look as football as a violent contact sport where PED's would be more likely to be used & have better reasons to do so ( not saying it's right ) but I think they are more excepting & forgiving in football. PED use in baseball is automatically looked at as cheating or gaining an advantage and the players are bashed for it.
 

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1) What evidence are you referencing? He was tested multiple times and only failed once, pre and post positive in October.

2) Are you reading different articles than me? The ones on ESPN claim that the evidence against Braun was "over whelming" (hence MLBPA saying they wouldn't defend him). If MLB has over whelming evidence on these guys, why do they need a "snitch" at this point? They have their stoolie on Bosch.

If you could do something other than guess what you thin other people think, you might add something to this discussion.

I'm not guessing....

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Unless TJ Quinn is in on some conspiracy. Also if you follow him he notes how Yankee fans are ready to light the BBQ for AROD but Brewer fans are still in denial. Lol
 

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I think people do view the PED problem in baseball as a bigger issue in baseball than football. I think a lot of people see baseball as Americas past time and want it to be played at its purest form. Not everyone has played football but I think almost everyone has picked up a ball & glove & threw the ball around, and people seem to want to protect the game. I think fans also look as football as a violent contact sport where PED's would be more likely to be used & have better reasons to do so ( not saying it's right ) but I think they are more excepting & forgiving in football. PED use in baseball is automatically looked at as cheating or gaining an advantage and the players are bashed for it.

To be honest, using PEDS in football would be more like trying to tread water. Some of these guys are so strong it's insane. In baseball, I think it helps so much that if you can even hit the ball, you'll have the ability to turn into a monster. Of course it varies by each player and their god given talent. Plus it depends on what they take. But look at some of the guys who were already decent or damn good. Like Bonds. You take Bonds without steroids and he would have probably neared 600 homers and been a sure fire HOF. You give him roids and he turns into the all time home run champ and career leader? You have records standing forever in a day that got broken and surpassed by three different people within what...a few years span? Is that not saying something? Brady Anderson? Is that not saying something? In baseball it seems, you give a guy roids, the right kind, and leave him alone for long enough, he will do things the sport hasn't seen or at least make the damn near impossible look quite ordinary. Throughout the late 80's and 90's and even now, we have way too many guys hitting homers and just generally being as strong as hell. So I'd really like everyone to understand that roids are doing things that are well above the threshold of what I would call a minimum difference. Given to the right person with the right talent, the sky is the limit. I'd say that's a big deal. Given to a guy like let's say Hunter Pence or the like, you can turn a 20-25 hr a year guy into a 40 or 50 hr a year guy. You could probably turn a 10 hr guy into someone who can hit 25-30 a year. It's doing something.

With football, I've seen these players up close and also during training. If I had to play in the NFL, taking roids wouldn't be a thing I'd do to make a name for myself by being able to perform super feats. It would be more like trying to hold my own against some freak of nature who can naturally bench press 500 pounds and is capable of picking me up like a baby and snapping my spinal cord at every vertebrae in my body as easily as a candy cane.

Do I think either sport should allow it? Nope. But I'm not convinced roids can create as much of an un-level playing field in football as it can in baseball. At least not one we as fans will notice.
 

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The Lewis comment is not true. It was all over sportscenter and yahoo news not to mention other outlets...

It was mentioned, and then it was dropped. If that had been Pujols or Griffey or a big name in baseball, it would have been front page news for weeks. Imagine that coming out about Buster Posey a few days before the WS...

In my mind it comes down to the fact that sports fans have "decided" to care about steroids in baseball and not in other sports. It was not all that long ago when we all kind of knew that steroids were an issue in baseball, but no one really cared all that much. A confluence of many issues pushed people to begin caring (likely driven in large part by the media). That has not happened in football yet. It would not shock me if that changes in the next few years though I imagine it will need a catalyst, whether it be a player dying (which I pray does not happen) or something else that gets the ball rolling.
 

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